1 00:00:01,400 --> 00:00:07,510 [Music] 2 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:14,760 so 3 00:00:52,670 --> 00:00:25,230 [Music] 4 00:01:15,350 --> 00:00:52,680 so 5 00:01:25,090 --> 00:01:15,360 [Music] 6 00:02:21,170 --> 00:01:25,100 [Applause] 7 00:02:21,780 --> 00:02:21,180 [Music] 8 00:02:30,150 --> 00:02:21,790 [Applause] 9 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:35,690 so 10 00:02:47,060 --> 00:02:44,949 [Music] 11 00:03:17,530 --> 00:02:47,070 so 12 00:03:51,030 --> 00:03:25,660 [Music] 13 00:03:55,990 --> 00:03:53,589 greetings and salutations old friends 14 00:03:57,270 --> 00:03:56,000 and hopefully some new friends uh and 15 00:03:59,350 --> 00:03:57,280 welcome back 16 00:04:02,630 --> 00:03:59,360 i got a chance over the weekend at the 17 00:04:04,070 --> 00:04:02,640 cabin to finish most of the book we're 18 00:04:06,630 --> 00:04:04,080 going to be talking about tonight and 19 00:04:11,030 --> 00:04:06,640 this is jason quits new book it's called 20 00:04:15,910 --> 00:04:13,190 i'll say this it's very information 21 00:04:17,110 --> 00:04:15,920 dense and it's it's it's not 22 00:04:19,990 --> 00:04:17,120 a terrible 23 00:04:21,990 --> 00:04:20,000 it's not hard to read but i found myself 24 00:04:24,870 --> 00:04:22,000 stopping to think about some of the 25 00:04:26,550 --> 00:04:24,880 things in each chapter before trying to 26 00:04:28,469 --> 00:04:26,560 trudge along 27 00:04:31,670 --> 00:04:28,479 includes a great deal of information 28 00:04:35,189 --> 00:04:31,680 about ancient gods cosmology 29 00:04:37,430 --> 00:04:35,199 um sort of ritual systems uh 30 00:04:39,270 --> 00:04:37,440 i found it to be very interesting 31 00:04:40,710 --> 00:04:39,280 and i'm looking forward to picking 32 00:04:42,870 --> 00:04:40,720 jason's brain 33 00:04:44,790 --> 00:04:42,880 about some of the inspiration behind it 34 00:04:45,749 --> 00:04:44,800 some of the sourcing that he used 35 00:04:47,510 --> 00:04:45,759 because 36 00:04:49,110 --> 00:04:47,520 there's so much information in here and 37 00:04:52,310 --> 00:04:49,120 i was impressed with the there's a page 38 00:04:53,909 --> 00:04:52,320 in the bibliography of all of these uh 39 00:04:55,270 --> 00:04:53,919 books that 40 00:04:56,950 --> 00:04:55,280 inspired 41 00:04:59,189 --> 00:04:56,960 some of this 42 00:05:01,430 --> 00:04:59,199 uh and uh 43 00:05:03,749 --> 00:05:01,440 so we're gonna get into it tonight 44 00:05:05,990 --> 00:05:03,759 uh he was actually our first guest ever 45 00:05:07,830 --> 00:05:06,000 here on truth seekers and we're happy to 46 00:05:10,550 --> 00:05:07,840 welcome him back 47 00:05:11,749 --> 00:05:10,560 uh the canadian maple syrup king jason 48 00:05:13,430 --> 00:05:11,759 quit 49 00:05:15,110 --> 00:05:13,440 not good to have you 50 00:05:17,749 --> 00:05:15,120 thanks for having me back yes that is 51 00:05:18,710 --> 00:05:17,759 true i was your first guest and now look 52 00:05:20,790 --> 00:05:18,720 at you 53 00:05:22,950 --> 00:05:20,800 i know we're going 54 00:05:25,270 --> 00:05:22,960 right in the [\h__\h] again with jason 55 00:05:26,390 --> 00:05:25,280 quit we're down in the ghetto you know i 56 00:05:30,390 --> 00:05:26,400 can't get 57 00:05:32,550 --> 00:05:30,400 guests so i'll i'll settle for you 58 00:05:33,510 --> 00:05:32,560 though you're fine thank you and thank 59 00:05:35,990 --> 00:05:33,520 you for 60 00:05:38,629 --> 00:05:36,000 actually reading the book i mean yeah i 61 00:05:40,950 --> 00:05:38,639 look i kind of like i love and hate when 62 00:05:42,070 --> 00:05:40,960 a guest gives me homework because i said 63 00:05:43,670 --> 00:05:42,080 to jason 64 00:05:45,189 --> 00:05:43,680 uh you should come on and talk about my 65 00:05:47,510 --> 00:05:45,199 new book and he sent it to me and then 66 00:05:48,790 --> 00:05:47,520 he said sure once you read it and tell 67 00:05:49,830 --> 00:05:48,800 me what you think first i think he 68 00:05:51,189 --> 00:05:49,840 wanted to make sure i wasn't going to 69 00:05:52,629 --> 00:05:51,199 bring him on and tell everybody the book 70 00:05:53,909 --> 00:05:52,639 is terrible 71 00:05:56,150 --> 00:05:53,919 right 72 00:05:57,749 --> 00:05:56,160 well i mean like how can you interview 73 00:05:59,909 --> 00:05:57,759 someone if you don't know the contents 74 00:06:01,990 --> 00:05:59,919 of the book you're doing the show on 75 00:06:03,830 --> 00:06:02,000 well you'd be surprised no i usually do 76 00:06:05,670 --> 00:06:03,840 read it i read the david halpern book 77 00:06:07,990 --> 00:06:05,680 before i interviewed him about his book 78 00:06:09,830 --> 00:06:08,000 and i even yeah i'd like to be i'd like 79 00:06:11,749 --> 00:06:09,840 to be at least 80 00:06:14,070 --> 00:06:11,759 pretty well informed on the work that 81 00:06:15,670 --> 00:06:14,080 we're discussing this one's a difficult 82 00:06:17,510 --> 00:06:15,680 one though because 83 00:06:19,350 --> 00:06:17,520 it's sort of mixed this book sort of 84 00:06:21,189 --> 00:06:19,360 mixes 85 00:06:22,629 --> 00:06:21,199 i would say like 86 00:06:24,230 --> 00:06:22,639 correct me if i'm wrong but it sort of 87 00:06:26,230 --> 00:06:24,240 mixes like 88 00:06:28,430 --> 00:06:26,240 god systems 89 00:06:31,830 --> 00:06:28,440 the the connection to stars and 90 00:06:36,710 --> 00:06:31,840 constellations meditation and ritual 91 00:06:38,230 --> 00:06:36,720 magic all into one sort of system right 92 00:06:40,790 --> 00:06:38,240 it is one system 93 00:06:43,029 --> 00:06:40,800 and i had to kind of break it down to 94 00:06:45,029 --> 00:06:43,039 show 95 00:06:47,189 --> 00:06:45,039 my whole point the whole point of this 96 00:06:50,230 --> 00:06:47,199 entire book 97 00:06:52,710 --> 00:06:50,240 was trying to go back into history 98 00:06:54,390 --> 00:06:52,720 to the earliest mentions 99 00:06:57,189 --> 00:06:54,400 of these systems 100 00:06:59,510 --> 00:06:57,199 and then how they evolved over time 101 00:07:01,589 --> 00:06:59,520 so you know 102 00:07:03,909 --> 00:07:01,599 we may read about certain things in the 103 00:07:05,830 --> 00:07:03,919 bible today but those things came 104 00:07:07,909 --> 00:07:05,840 thousands of years before 105 00:07:09,990 --> 00:07:07,919 so i'm trying to kind of trace it down 106 00:07:11,270 --> 00:07:10,000 and simplify it to where did this 107 00:07:14,070 --> 00:07:11,280 information 108 00:07:16,790 --> 00:07:14,080 start coming from 109 00:07:19,430 --> 00:07:16,800 and how to interpret it because 110 00:07:21,589 --> 00:07:19,440 you know over thousands of years there's 111 00:07:23,510 --> 00:07:21,599 many interpretations of it 112 00:07:26,550 --> 00:07:23,520 and i'm just trying to refine it down to 113 00:07:27,749 --> 00:07:26,560 its absolute basics of what i believe it 114 00:07:29,749 --> 00:07:27,759 is 115 00:07:31,909 --> 00:07:29,759 where it came from first right where it 116 00:07:33,909 --> 00:07:31,919 came from first which obviously we can't 117 00:07:35,510 --> 00:07:33,919 really track it down 118 00:07:38,629 --> 00:07:35,520 because uh 119 00:07:43,110 --> 00:07:38,639 this goes into prehistoric times 120 00:07:47,830 --> 00:07:44,390 i would say depictions of the 121 00:07:50,710 --> 00:07:47,840 constellations in their zodiac form 122 00:07:52,390 --> 00:07:50,720 uh have been found in caves uh for 123 00:07:55,350 --> 00:07:52,400 example in france 124 00:07:57,589 --> 00:07:55,360 um going back almost 30 000 years 125 00:07:58,869 --> 00:07:57,599 you know there's uh 126 00:08:00,469 --> 00:07:58,879 what is it 127 00:08:03,749 --> 00:08:00,479 mammoth tusks 128 00:08:05,589 --> 00:08:03,759 literally carved with star maps on it 129 00:08:07,270 --> 00:08:05,599 yeah that's freaky 130 00:08:09,110 --> 00:08:07,280 so it goes first you gotta kill the 131 00:08:11,029 --> 00:08:09,120 mammoth wouldn't paper have been easier 132 00:08:12,790 --> 00:08:11,039 i don't understand them doing that i've 133 00:08:13,510 --> 00:08:12,800 read all about that and i went why would 134 00:08:15,990 --> 00:08:13,520 they 135 00:08:17,830 --> 00:08:16,000 be carving star maps into 136 00:08:20,150 --> 00:08:17,840 but i guess that was the available 137 00:08:22,150 --> 00:08:20,160 material and it's durable it's going to 138 00:08:23,510 --> 00:08:22,160 last a long time right 139 00:08:28,390 --> 00:08:23,520 so we know 140 00:08:30,469 --> 00:08:28,400 interested in cosmology they're very 141 00:08:31,510 --> 00:08:30,479 interested in astrology 142 00:08:34,310 --> 00:08:31,520 and 143 00:08:35,990 --> 00:08:34,320 my personal belief is that 144 00:08:38,469 --> 00:08:36,000 that was the biggest shift in 145 00:08:40,389 --> 00:08:38,479 consciousness of humankind is from going 146 00:08:41,909 --> 00:08:40,399 from hunter and gatherers 147 00:08:43,829 --> 00:08:41,919 into farming 148 00:08:47,110 --> 00:08:43,839 and then settling on a land 149 00:08:49,030 --> 00:08:47,120 and i believe what changed is that we 150 00:08:50,870 --> 00:08:49,040 learned how to map the stars 151 00:08:53,430 --> 00:08:50,880 because if we knew the stars 152 00:08:55,509 --> 00:08:53,440 then we knew when to harvest and plant 153 00:08:57,509 --> 00:08:55,519 our seeds 154 00:09:00,150 --> 00:08:57,519 and that changes everything then you can 155 00:09:02,470 --> 00:09:00,160 not yeah you you know you could know 156 00:09:03,670 --> 00:09:02,480 when winter's coming right from 157 00:09:06,070 --> 00:09:03,680 looking at the 158 00:09:06,790 --> 00:09:06,080 positions of the stars it's almost like 159 00:09:44,470 --> 00:09:06,800 a 160 00:09:48,230 --> 00:09:44,480 um 161 00:09:50,630 --> 00:09:48,240 the zodiac is 20 around 26 000 years to 162 00:09:52,070 --> 00:09:50,640 go through the whole zodiac which means 163 00:09:53,910 --> 00:09:52,080 a cycle yeah 164 00:09:54,949 --> 00:09:53,920 which means someone would have to be 165 00:09:57,590 --> 00:09:54,959 here 166 00:10:00,550 --> 00:09:57,600 to observe it for 26 000 years to 167 00:10:02,630 --> 00:10:00,560 understand the whole cycle of the zodiac 168 00:10:05,350 --> 00:10:02,640 so we can just 169 00:10:07,030 --> 00:10:05,360 you know uh say that whoever 170 00:10:09,430 --> 00:10:07,040 started to map this and started to 171 00:10:12,389 --> 00:10:09,440 calculate this and observe this 172 00:10:14,710 --> 00:10:12,399 um it started to happen 173 00:10:18,949 --> 00:10:14,720 a lot longer than we think so it would 174 00:10:20,310 --> 00:10:18,959 be more than 26 000 years of doing this 175 00:10:21,910 --> 00:10:20,320 so 176 00:10:24,389 --> 00:10:21,920 what's your hypothesis on how they did 177 00:10:27,829 --> 00:10:24,399 that then did they just hand down and 178 00:10:29,829 --> 00:10:27,839 they did it in 26 generations or 179 00:10:33,590 --> 00:10:29,839 five generations and just handed down 180 00:10:36,550 --> 00:10:33,600 the data until they had it all or 181 00:10:39,030 --> 00:10:36,560 well i think this is um the start of 182 00:10:42,949 --> 00:10:39,040 religion the start of 183 00:10:44,949 --> 00:10:42,959 um basically shamanism and energy 184 00:10:47,430 --> 00:10:44,959 systems that we know today 185 00:10:49,030 --> 00:10:47,440 basically i would say let's let's say 186 00:10:50,710 --> 00:10:49,040 we're all caveman let's say we're all 187 00:10:52,389 --> 00:10:50,720 unconscious and we're just learning the 188 00:10:54,630 --> 00:10:52,399 world right 189 00:10:56,150 --> 00:10:54,640 if you're in a forest in a situation you 190 00:10:58,069 --> 00:10:56,160 don't know anything 191 00:11:01,430 --> 00:10:58,079 about anything 192 00:11:03,990 --> 00:11:01,440 the only way you're going to survive 193 00:11:06,949 --> 00:11:04,000 is basically observing nature 194 00:11:09,030 --> 00:11:06,959 and you start by observing the animals 195 00:11:10,710 --> 00:11:09,040 in the environment because when you 196 00:11:12,710 --> 00:11:10,720 observe the animals in the environment 197 00:11:14,949 --> 00:11:12,720 you start to then know 198 00:11:17,430 --> 00:11:14,959 um what to eat 199 00:11:19,509 --> 00:11:17,440 you know what's safe what's not safe and 200 00:11:21,269 --> 00:11:19,519 how do these animals survive 201 00:11:22,870 --> 00:11:21,279 so the first type of religion i would 202 00:11:24,870 --> 00:11:22,880 say would be 203 00:11:25,750 --> 00:11:24,880 animalism 204 00:11:26,829 --> 00:11:25,760 right 205 00:11:28,470 --> 00:11:26,839 so 206 00:11:30,069 --> 00:11:28,480 basically 207 00:11:31,430 --> 00:11:30,079 you would observe the animals and how 208 00:11:33,670 --> 00:11:31,440 they would survive and that would help 209 00:11:35,350 --> 00:11:33,680 you to survive so 210 00:11:38,470 --> 00:11:35,360 even in shamanic cultures today they 211 00:11:40,870 --> 00:11:38,480 would dress up as an animal to gain that 212 00:11:43,670 --> 00:11:40,880 spiritual power of that animal 213 00:11:46,230 --> 00:11:43,680 based on how it survives and how it 214 00:11:48,790 --> 00:11:46,240 taught humans to survive 215 00:11:49,910 --> 00:11:48,800 and then after that so once we kind of 216 00:11:52,389 --> 00:11:49,920 get our 217 00:11:53,509 --> 00:11:52,399 senses into the environment observing 218 00:11:56,470 --> 00:11:53,519 nature 219 00:11:59,190 --> 00:11:56,480 then we can start looking for the stars 220 00:12:01,430 --> 00:11:59,200 and what they would do is 221 00:12:03,910 --> 00:12:01,440 they would see what star was the first 222 00:12:05,269 --> 00:12:03,920 star that comes up over the horizon 223 00:12:06,790 --> 00:12:05,279 and they would call this the morning 224 00:12:08,389 --> 00:12:06,800 star 225 00:12:10,470 --> 00:12:08,399 so at different times of the year there 226 00:12:12,470 --> 00:12:10,480 will be different stars raising rising 227 00:12:13,750 --> 00:12:12,480 above the horizon of the eastern horizon 228 00:12:14,949 --> 00:12:13,760 with the sun 229 00:12:17,030 --> 00:12:14,959 and then at night there would be 230 00:12:19,269 --> 00:12:17,040 different stars in the sky 231 00:12:21,430 --> 00:12:19,279 and if you would observe it you would 232 00:12:23,910 --> 00:12:21,440 know that certain stars would come out 233 00:12:25,750 --> 00:12:23,920 in or certain constellations would come 234 00:12:27,750 --> 00:12:25,760 out in the sky 235 00:12:28,870 --> 00:12:27,760 with certain stars at different times of 236 00:12:30,790 --> 00:12:28,880 the year 237 00:12:33,750 --> 00:12:30,800 that would signal 238 00:12:34,949 --> 00:12:33,760 spring or summer or fall 239 00:12:37,350 --> 00:12:34,959 so those 240 00:12:38,949 --> 00:12:37,360 became indicators in the sky 241 00:12:41,990 --> 00:12:38,959 as to 242 00:12:45,509 --> 00:12:42,000 what they needed to do as in like 243 00:12:46,710 --> 00:12:45,519 plant or harvest or move or prepare for 244 00:12:49,430 --> 00:12:46,720 the winter 245 00:12:50,550 --> 00:12:49,440 so the sky became almost like a map of 246 00:12:52,870 --> 00:12:50,560 time 247 00:12:54,470 --> 00:12:52,880 where they could actually judge uh what 248 00:12:56,550 --> 00:12:54,480 they need to do 249 00:12:58,389 --> 00:12:56,560 and 250 00:12:59,350 --> 00:12:58,399 there's evidence 251 00:13:02,710 --> 00:12:59,360 that 252 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:05,670 cultures 253 00:13:09,829 --> 00:13:08,069 10 you know over 10 000 years ago they 254 00:13:11,910 --> 00:13:09,839 found ev you know there is evidence that 255 00:13:13,430 --> 00:13:11,920 they traveled using the sea and how do 256 00:13:14,949 --> 00:13:13,440 they navigate they navigate with the 257 00:13:16,870 --> 00:13:14,959 stars 258 00:13:20,470 --> 00:13:16,880 so it's interesting to me that they put 259 00:13:21,910 --> 00:13:20,480 this stuff all together you know because 260 00:13:24,310 --> 00:13:21,920 i mean you know 261 00:13:26,389 --> 00:13:24,320 pretty i think of ancient man as being 262 00:13:28,470 --> 00:13:26,399 pretty primitive but you know the truth 263 00:13:30,230 --> 00:13:28,480 is they have mostly the same brain we do 264 00:13:32,710 --> 00:13:30,240 so they were able to think and reason 265 00:13:34,870 --> 00:13:32,720 and and put this stuff together 266 00:13:36,870 --> 00:13:34,880 so so somehow you do touch on a lot of 267 00:13:38,389 --> 00:13:36,880 the cosmology and the connections 268 00:13:40,230 --> 00:13:38,399 especially in egyptians how they would 269 00:13:43,189 --> 00:13:40,240 align things and 270 00:13:45,189 --> 00:13:43,199 this star is is for this god and this 271 00:13:47,269 --> 00:13:45,199 one's for that god 272 00:13:50,230 --> 00:13:47,279 that's an another interesting part of it 273 00:13:52,310 --> 00:13:50,240 and and but you do tie together some 274 00:13:55,509 --> 00:13:52,320 i guess uh jewish 275 00:13:58,629 --> 00:13:55,519 part of parts of this and godheads and 276 00:14:00,550 --> 00:13:58,639 systems right and and other cultures 277 00:14:03,750 --> 00:14:00,560 influence on egyptian 278 00:14:07,350 --> 00:14:03,760 part of this uh yeah you can see kind of 279 00:14:08,870 --> 00:14:07,360 um the out of egypt type of hypothesis 280 00:14:10,710 --> 00:14:08,880 where 281 00:14:15,110 --> 00:14:10,720 certain groups of people they took the 282 00:14:17,189 --> 00:14:15,120 knowledge from egypt and it kind of got 283 00:14:18,629 --> 00:14:17,199 changed but this the stories still 284 00:14:20,550 --> 00:14:18,639 remain the same 285 00:14:21,990 --> 00:14:20,560 just different names were replaced and 286 00:14:24,310 --> 00:14:22,000 different stories were added to it but 287 00:14:26,150 --> 00:14:24,320 it was still the exact same things 288 00:14:28,470 --> 00:14:26,160 and that kind of evolved and changed 289 00:14:30,949 --> 00:14:28,480 into modern day christianity as well the 290 00:14:32,230 --> 00:14:30,959 same type of stories 291 00:14:35,670 --> 00:14:32,240 especially 292 00:14:38,629 --> 00:14:37,110 the stars 293 00:14:40,550 --> 00:14:38,639 were passed on 294 00:14:41,750 --> 00:14:40,560 through these generations 295 00:14:44,790 --> 00:14:41,760 so 296 00:14:48,230 --> 00:14:44,800 for me when it comes to mysticism 297 00:14:50,310 --> 00:14:48,240 it really is this kind of reflection 298 00:14:51,509 --> 00:14:50,320 and the reflection is 299 00:14:53,509 --> 00:14:51,519 um 300 00:14:55,670 --> 00:14:53,519 you are basically the universe the 301 00:14:57,269 --> 00:14:55,680 universe is you and to understand 302 00:14:58,629 --> 00:14:57,279 yourself you have to understand the 303 00:15:01,350 --> 00:14:58,639 universe 304 00:15:04,310 --> 00:15:01,360 and by looking at different 305 00:15:07,350 --> 00:15:04,320 basically polarities in the world 306 00:15:09,110 --> 00:15:07,360 you start to understand yourself 307 00:15:12,790 --> 00:15:09,120 and this is the basis 308 00:15:15,269 --> 00:15:12,800 of this understanding 309 00:15:17,670 --> 00:15:15,279 and basically 310 00:15:19,350 --> 00:15:17,680 my whole goal in this thing was just 311 00:15:21,430 --> 00:15:19,360 trying to 312 00:15:22,949 --> 00:15:21,440 find a way to connect 313 00:15:25,189 --> 00:15:22,959 the ritual 314 00:15:26,949 --> 00:15:25,199 because we all go through cycles 315 00:15:29,670 --> 00:15:26,959 all right everything has an ebb and a 316 00:15:32,949 --> 00:15:31,189 you know everything is born and 317 00:15:36,069 --> 00:15:32,959 everything dies 318 00:15:38,790 --> 00:15:36,079 and how do we fit in this cycle 319 00:15:41,269 --> 00:15:38,800 and the the truth is is that 320 00:15:44,150 --> 00:15:41,279 we are a reflection 321 00:15:47,189 --> 00:15:44,160 of our outer world we are 322 00:15:50,230 --> 00:15:47,199 shaped by our environment 323 00:15:52,710 --> 00:15:51,509 when we 324 00:15:55,110 --> 00:15:52,720 start to 325 00:15:56,949 --> 00:15:55,120 understand these connections this is 326 00:15:59,430 --> 00:15:56,959 where we go through 327 00:16:01,509 --> 00:15:59,440 spiritual growth 328 00:16:03,189 --> 00:16:01,519 and i believe that by 329 00:16:04,790 --> 00:16:03,199 having a strong connection to our 330 00:16:07,749 --> 00:16:04,800 ancestors a strong connection to the 331 00:16:08,949 --> 00:16:07,759 knowledge that got us here 332 00:16:11,189 --> 00:16:08,959 we 333 00:16:13,189 --> 00:16:11,199 strengthen ourselves 334 00:16:14,790 --> 00:16:13,199 and i think going through 335 00:16:17,749 --> 00:16:14,800 you know what we're going through today 336 00:16:19,430 --> 00:16:17,759 living in an artificial life um you know 337 00:16:22,949 --> 00:16:19,440 in artificial surroundings eating 338 00:16:25,509 --> 00:16:22,959 artificial food artificial light 339 00:16:27,030 --> 00:16:25,519 it's almost like we are 340 00:16:28,710 --> 00:16:27,040 disconnecting ourselves from this 341 00:16:30,949 --> 00:16:28,720 natural cycle 342 00:16:33,030 --> 00:16:30,959 which could has have some 343 00:16:35,590 --> 00:16:33,040 consequences on our minds of our 344 00:16:36,629 --> 00:16:35,600 emotions of our physical well-being and 345 00:16:39,189 --> 00:16:36,639 our health you know what you're 346 00:16:41,829 --> 00:16:39,199 absolutely right i just i just went on 347 00:16:44,629 --> 00:16:41,839 not really a diet but i for the past i 348 00:16:46,389 --> 00:16:44,639 don't know uh six weeks no processed 349 00:16:49,269 --> 00:16:46,399 food at all 350 00:16:52,470 --> 00:16:49,279 nothing from a box or microwave or any 351 00:16:55,189 --> 00:16:52,480 of that stuff i feel tremendously better 352 00:16:57,509 --> 00:16:55,199 eating all as much fresh 353 00:16:59,749 --> 00:16:57,519 whatever as possible and nothing out of 354 00:17:01,030 --> 00:16:59,759 a i mean it's a simple stupid rule but a 355 00:17:02,550 --> 00:17:01,040 friend of mine turned me onto it like 356 00:17:05,429 --> 00:17:02,560 well you can't be eating like pizza 357 00:17:07,590 --> 00:17:05,439 rolls and frozen you know hungry man 358 00:17:10,470 --> 00:17:07,600 dinners it's just all filled with 359 00:17:12,150 --> 00:17:10,480 garbage it's not good for your body 360 00:17:13,829 --> 00:17:12,160 all these preservatives you know i don't 361 00:17:15,750 --> 00:17:13,839 know chemicals whatever they put in that 362 00:17:18,390 --> 00:17:15,760 stuff so yeah that 363 00:17:20,470 --> 00:17:18,400 just cutting out processed food is is a 364 00:17:22,789 --> 00:17:20,480 tremendous difference to me 365 00:17:24,069 --> 00:17:22,799 and you know you go out to your cabin 366 00:17:25,270 --> 00:17:24,079 you know you feel 367 00:17:27,189 --> 00:17:25,280 amazing 368 00:17:29,750 --> 00:17:27,199 being out there there's something about 369 00:17:32,470 --> 00:17:29,760 being surrounded by all that life you 370 00:17:33,990 --> 00:17:32,480 know uh this weekend i saw some coyotes 371 00:17:36,470 --> 00:17:34,000 on the trail 372 00:17:38,070 --> 00:17:36,480 two or three coyotes crossed my trail 373 00:17:40,789 --> 00:17:38,080 and that was amazing and there's plenty 374 00:17:42,870 --> 00:17:40,799 of deer around too and and just the 375 00:17:45,430 --> 00:17:42,880 force is just filled with life and that 376 00:17:47,590 --> 00:17:45,440 to me is the natural way to live this 377 00:17:48,870 --> 00:17:47,600 asphalt concrete 378 00:17:51,270 --> 00:17:48,880 you know 379 00:17:53,110 --> 00:17:51,280 roads everywhere and everything's 380 00:17:55,110 --> 00:17:53,120 covered they cover you know i just live 381 00:17:56,870 --> 00:17:55,120 in the city and they cover like every 382 00:17:59,270 --> 00:17:56,880 inch of nature they cover with some 383 00:18:00,630 --> 00:17:59,280 artificial material it can't be good for 384 00:18:03,029 --> 00:18:00,640 us right 385 00:18:05,029 --> 00:18:03,039 well you know you mentioned something 386 00:18:06,950 --> 00:18:05,039 about you know you have the coyotes you 387 00:18:08,870 --> 00:18:06,960 have the bears you have 388 00:18:10,390 --> 00:18:08,880 the the deer these animals in your 389 00:18:12,390 --> 00:18:10,400 surroundings 390 00:18:14,390 --> 00:18:12,400 and uh in the book you know we're 391 00:18:15,430 --> 00:18:14,400 talking about different gods 392 00:18:17,510 --> 00:18:15,440 who are 393 00:18:19,750 --> 00:18:17,520 in the shape of animals 394 00:18:22,630 --> 00:18:19,760 but when you travel out of egypt to 395 00:18:25,029 --> 00:18:22,640 different things or to different places 396 00:18:28,549 --> 00:18:25,039 the gods change and the animal 397 00:18:31,430 --> 00:18:28,559 attributes of those gods change 398 00:18:34,230 --> 00:18:31,440 sure yeah and it's because that you know 399 00:18:35,510 --> 00:18:34,240 if you lived out there full time stephen 400 00:18:37,990 --> 00:18:35,520 and you start to 401 00:18:39,350 --> 00:18:38,000 get involved and understand the life 402 00:18:41,430 --> 00:18:39,360 around you 403 00:18:43,350 --> 00:18:41,440 you'll start to see that the deer has a 404 00:18:45,190 --> 00:18:43,360 specific role to play 405 00:18:47,350 --> 00:18:45,200 and you can say that's a spiritual role 406 00:18:48,950 --> 00:18:47,360 in that environment the coyote has a 407 00:18:51,830 --> 00:18:48,960 very important role 408 00:18:53,750 --> 00:18:51,840 in that environment so you start to take 409 00:18:55,590 --> 00:18:53,760 their roles how they adapt in that 410 00:18:58,310 --> 00:18:55,600 environment and put it together and 411 00:19:00,310 --> 00:18:58,320 you'll create a story about how they 412 00:19:02,310 --> 00:19:00,320 live in this environment 413 00:19:04,310 --> 00:19:02,320 for survival it's like a universal law 414 00:19:06,950 --> 00:19:04,320 for them you're absolutely right every 415 00:19:08,470 --> 00:19:06,960 animal has its place there you know like 416 00:19:09,750 --> 00:19:08,480 i've got a lot of raccoons around the 417 00:19:11,750 --> 00:19:09,760 cabin and those guys are like the 418 00:19:14,549 --> 00:19:11,760 garbage men of the forest they'll eat 419 00:19:16,230 --> 00:19:14,559 literally anything out there you know 420 00:19:18,870 --> 00:19:16,240 just anything something falls over and 421 00:19:21,270 --> 00:19:18,880 dies they're eating it 422 00:19:23,270 --> 00:19:21,280 you know uh it's funny to me you're 423 00:19:24,870 --> 00:19:23,280 right everybody everything everything 424 00:19:27,110 --> 00:19:24,880 everything works perfectly in the forest 425 00:19:28,950 --> 00:19:27,120 everybody has their job to do but i 426 00:19:30,950 --> 00:19:28,960 noticed you mentioned this mention of 427 00:19:31,990 --> 00:19:30,960 ritual and one of the things in reading 428 00:19:35,190 --> 00:19:32,000 the book 429 00:19:38,470 --> 00:19:35,200 that struck me is that humans have this 430 00:19:41,110 --> 00:19:38,480 i think we have a need for ritual to 431 00:19:42,630 --> 00:19:41,120 focus our minds on certain tasks or 432 00:19:44,950 --> 00:19:42,640 times of the year 433 00:19:47,669 --> 00:19:44,960 and it reminded me of a lot of catholic 434 00:19:49,669 --> 00:19:47,679 holidays because there's always ritual 435 00:19:51,190 --> 00:19:49,679 involved you're going to have easter you 436 00:19:53,990 --> 00:19:51,200 have a certain meal 437 00:19:56,310 --> 00:19:54,000 you go to mass and they talk about you 438 00:19:58,630 --> 00:19:56,320 know jesus rising from the dead 439 00:20:01,350 --> 00:19:58,640 on easter sunday and or christmas 440 00:20:03,669 --> 00:20:01,360 there's certain rituals involved and uh 441 00:20:06,630 --> 00:20:03,679 but you attack this rituals from a more 442 00:20:09,590 --> 00:20:06,640 ancient it's it's a lot of stuff that 443 00:20:12,310 --> 00:20:09,600 seemed vaguely familiar to me 444 00:20:14,470 --> 00:20:12,320 but i wasn't familiar with some of this 445 00:20:17,590 --> 00:20:14,480 old ancient egyptian 446 00:20:19,270 --> 00:20:17,600 form of meditation and ritual 447 00:20:20,390 --> 00:20:19,280 so can we talk a little bit about that 448 00:20:21,750 --> 00:20:20,400 and 449 00:20:25,270 --> 00:20:21,760 do you think that this 450 00:20:28,149 --> 00:20:25,280 these egyptian rituals predate a lot of 451 00:20:30,390 --> 00:20:28,159 modern more modern like christian 452 00:20:32,549 --> 00:20:30,400 sort of prayers and rituals 453 00:20:33,350 --> 00:20:32,559 but they still have some similarity 454 00:20:36,310 --> 00:20:33,360 right 455 00:20:38,630 --> 00:20:36,320 oh they absolutely have uh similarity 456 00:20:40,950 --> 00:20:38,640 and they are more ancient and a lot of 457 00:20:43,350 --> 00:20:40,960 um the symbolism 458 00:20:44,230 --> 00:20:43,360 of these rituals have been passed down 459 00:20:47,190 --> 00:20:44,240 so 460 00:20:48,789 --> 00:20:47,200 you know for example uh even 461 00:20:49,669 --> 00:20:48,799 something as simple as the christmas 462 00:20:51,510 --> 00:20:49,679 tree 463 00:20:53,590 --> 00:20:51,520 you know why on christmas do you have 464 00:20:54,789 --> 00:20:53,600 the you know the the christmas tree in 465 00:20:56,470 --> 00:20:54,799 your house 466 00:20:58,149 --> 00:20:56,480 um yeah that seemed that always seemed 467 00:21:00,070 --> 00:20:58,159 to be a weird thing to me that a bunch 468 00:21:01,270 --> 00:21:00,080 of people would go let's go outside cut 469 00:21:03,430 --> 00:21:01,280 down a tree 470 00:21:04,070 --> 00:21:03,440 bring it in our house and then decorate 471 00:21:09,270 --> 00:21:04,080 it 472 00:21:10,549 --> 00:21:09,280 that's a weird one because uh back in 473 00:21:12,549 --> 00:21:10,559 egypt 474 00:21:14,950 --> 00:21:12,559 around that time of year around the 475 00:21:17,110 --> 00:21:14,960 solstice they would raise 476 00:21:19,350 --> 00:21:17,120 the uh the jed pillar 477 00:21:22,310 --> 00:21:19,360 which was um 478 00:21:26,070 --> 00:21:22,320 which was a pillar carved out of wood 479 00:21:28,310 --> 00:21:26,080 um and osiris was the god of vegetation 480 00:21:30,710 --> 00:21:28,320 so osiris was basically a tree he was 481 00:21:32,950 --> 00:21:30,720 the original green man 482 00:21:34,710 --> 00:21:32,960 and every year it was this it was kind 483 00:21:36,230 --> 00:21:34,720 of like the rebirth 484 00:21:38,230 --> 00:21:36,240 of um 485 00:21:39,510 --> 00:21:38,240 of nature it was the rebirth of the 486 00:21:41,510 --> 00:21:39,520 green man 487 00:21:43,669 --> 00:21:41,520 where 488 00:21:47,590 --> 00:21:43,679 you can now plant your seeds everything 489 00:21:52,710 --> 00:21:49,990 so you know when you look back even 490 00:21:54,789 --> 00:21:52,720 before egypt you know there are these uh 491 00:21:57,110 --> 00:21:54,799 nature cults or the tree cults they 492 00:21:58,950 --> 00:21:57,120 would pray to the trees 493 00:22:01,270 --> 00:21:58,960 and a lot of the medicine that they 494 00:22:03,750 --> 00:22:01,280 would use in ancient times 495 00:22:05,909 --> 00:22:03,760 uh came from these trees 496 00:22:09,029 --> 00:22:05,919 or herbs and things right herbs and 497 00:22:11,350 --> 00:22:09,039 resins and um all the things it would be 498 00:22:14,789 --> 00:22:11,360 kind of like the flesh of the god it was 499 00:22:17,510 --> 00:22:14,799 the flesh of osiris the oils or bloods 500 00:22:21,110 --> 00:22:17,520 of these plants that they would harvest 501 00:22:23,350 --> 00:22:21,120 and give during these festivals 502 00:22:25,270 --> 00:22:23,360 interestingly it's it also has to do 503 00:22:27,830 --> 00:22:25,280 with the time of year 504 00:22:29,990 --> 00:22:27,840 it also has to do with 505 00:22:31,830 --> 00:22:30,000 where the sun is so you know you have 506 00:22:33,190 --> 00:22:31,840 the rising sun you have the sun that's 507 00:22:36,710 --> 00:22:33,200 above your head and you have the sun 508 00:22:38,789 --> 00:22:36,720 that's setting and each one 509 00:22:41,350 --> 00:22:38,799 had its own specific gods 510 00:22:43,990 --> 00:22:41,360 own specific plants that were connected 511 00:22:45,909 --> 00:22:44,000 to it even uh the same thing with the 512 00:22:47,669 --> 00:22:45,919 direction so each thing 513 00:22:49,830 --> 00:22:47,679 had its ritual 514 00:22:52,830 --> 00:22:49,840 that connected to a god 515 00:22:57,270 --> 00:22:52,840 and over time it really kind of 516 00:22:59,430 --> 00:22:57,280 um i would say became very complex 517 00:23:01,669 --> 00:22:59,440 where um they would use 518 00:23:03,430 --> 00:23:01,679 these rituals for uh spiritual 519 00:23:07,029 --> 00:23:03,440 purification 520 00:23:09,190 --> 00:23:07,039 to uh bring in and like 521 00:23:10,549 --> 00:23:09,200 i'll just say like um 522 00:23:12,230 --> 00:23:10,559 i grew up 523 00:23:13,190 --> 00:23:12,240 um jewish 524 00:23:16,070 --> 00:23:13,200 and my 525 00:23:17,990 --> 00:23:16,080 wife is catholic i never knew that you 526 00:23:20,950 --> 00:23:18,000 were jewish that's weird 527 00:23:24,149 --> 00:23:20,960 and we we have a very similar background 528 00:23:25,270 --> 00:23:24,159 uh my uh my family emigrated here from 529 00:23:28,630 --> 00:23:25,280 poland 530 00:23:31,350 --> 00:23:28,640 ukraine and russia right so it's like 531 00:23:32,070 --> 00:23:31,360 i'm here for pollock so 532 00:23:34,149 --> 00:23:32,080 and 533 00:23:35,909 --> 00:23:34,159 um 534 00:23:41,430 --> 00:23:35,919 so basically for christmas you have 535 00:23:46,390 --> 00:23:44,149 with um like rosh hashanah yom kippur 536 00:23:50,070 --> 00:23:46,400 which is about atonement in you know the 537 00:23:52,149 --> 00:23:50,080 fall the the september october time and 538 00:23:53,669 --> 00:23:52,159 this all goes back to ancient egypt it 539 00:23:55,269 --> 00:23:53,679 was about 540 00:23:56,950 --> 00:23:55,279 when certain stars were in the sky or 541 00:23:57,909 --> 00:23:56,960 there was a change 542 00:23:59,750 --> 00:23:57,919 from 543 00:24:00,870 --> 00:23:59,760 festival to festival 544 00:24:02,310 --> 00:24:00,880 it was like 545 00:24:04,630 --> 00:24:02,320 same with these 546 00:24:07,350 --> 00:24:04,640 solstices and equinoxes 547 00:24:08,390 --> 00:24:07,360 these were the times of you know the sun 548 00:24:10,950 --> 00:24:08,400 is 549 00:24:14,950 --> 00:24:10,960 awakening so the sun awakens around 550 00:24:17,510 --> 00:24:14,960 december uh 21st the solstice 551 00:24:19,909 --> 00:24:17,520 the sun is its most strength at the end 552 00:24:24,230 --> 00:24:22,310 the summer solstice yeah the longest day 553 00:24:25,269 --> 00:24:24,240 of the year longest day of the year so 554 00:24:27,190 --> 00:24:25,279 and then 555 00:24:30,549 --> 00:24:27,200 when the sun starts to die again which 556 00:24:33,350 --> 00:24:32,470 autumn 557 00:24:35,350 --> 00:24:33,360 you know 558 00:24:36,549 --> 00:24:35,360 you have to this is when you harvest 559 00:24:38,230 --> 00:24:36,559 everything so you have all these 560 00:24:40,630 --> 00:24:38,240 festivals you have the festivals of 561 00:24:42,630 --> 00:24:40,640 autumn which is the you atone for the 562 00:24:44,630 --> 00:24:42,640 sins of the year basically that's what 563 00:24:47,350 --> 00:24:44,640 yom kippur is 564 00:24:50,470 --> 00:24:47,360 and then in christmas uh you celebrate 565 00:24:53,110 --> 00:24:50,480 um the the sun being born again because 566 00:24:54,870 --> 00:24:53,120 now the sun is coming up over the um 567 00:24:57,110 --> 00:24:54,880 northern horizon 568 00:24:58,149 --> 00:24:57,120 or the northern hemisphere 569 00:25:00,789 --> 00:24:58,159 um 570 00:25:02,470 --> 00:25:00,799 so you have these kind of festivals all 571 00:25:04,230 --> 00:25:02,480 based on the calendar and if you go to 572 00:25:07,190 --> 00:25:04,240 into judaism 573 00:25:10,950 --> 00:25:07,200 um all the festivals are around um the 574 00:25:12,390 --> 00:25:10,960 moon calendar so it hits on the moon 575 00:25:14,470 --> 00:25:12,400 um 576 00:25:16,870 --> 00:25:14,480 of those times of the year 577 00:25:19,830 --> 00:25:16,880 and it's very similar if not the same 578 00:25:23,669 --> 00:25:19,840 with uh christianity where they're solar 579 00:25:25,750 --> 00:25:23,679 uh they put it with the solar calendar 580 00:25:27,430 --> 00:25:25,760 and there's a lot of hidden information 581 00:25:28,950 --> 00:25:27,440 and i know that's why you said the book 582 00:25:33,830 --> 00:25:28,960 is 583 00:25:36,230 --> 00:25:33,840 information dense but in a good way not 584 00:25:37,830 --> 00:25:36,240 in a bad way i just mean it's not it's 585 00:25:39,830 --> 00:25:37,840 not something that you can just blow 586 00:25:41,909 --> 00:25:39,840 through i found myself stopping and 587 00:25:43,350 --> 00:25:41,919 thinking about things and relating my 588 00:25:45,590 --> 00:25:43,360 own 589 00:25:48,630 --> 00:25:45,600 sort of knowledge of christian theology 590 00:25:50,710 --> 00:25:48,640 and rituals and things like that 591 00:25:52,630 --> 00:25:50,720 and interesting to me that the the other 592 00:25:55,430 --> 00:25:52,640 thing that jumped out at me is that 593 00:25:57,430 --> 00:25:55,440 you're giving people sort of a 594 00:25:59,750 --> 00:25:57,440 a ritualistic 595 00:26:02,149 --> 00:25:59,760 way to focus will 596 00:26:05,669 --> 00:26:02,159 on certain tasks or 597 00:26:10,310 --> 00:26:08,070 what's the word spiritual 598 00:26:11,830 --> 00:26:10,320 journey you know you like if you're 599 00:26:13,190 --> 00:26:11,840 trying to do something specific 600 00:26:15,110 --> 00:26:13,200 spiritually 601 00:26:17,110 --> 00:26:15,120 there's methods to 602 00:26:19,350 --> 00:26:17,120 to do that right and 603 00:26:21,590 --> 00:26:19,360 but again i just kept coming back to the 604 00:26:23,590 --> 00:26:21,600 like wow we we as humans must really 605 00:26:25,750 --> 00:26:23,600 need these rituals 606 00:26:28,230 --> 00:26:25,760 to focus our wills or something there's 607 00:26:29,909 --> 00:26:28,240 something about the act of like prayer 608 00:26:32,070 --> 00:26:29,919 or meditation 609 00:26:32,870 --> 00:26:32,080 that focuses our will on a given task 610 00:26:35,510 --> 00:26:32,880 like 611 00:26:37,830 --> 00:26:35,520 in in christianity if somebody's ill or 612 00:26:40,630 --> 00:26:37,840 near death especially we have certain 613 00:26:43,510 --> 00:26:40,640 prayers that we say 614 00:26:45,350 --> 00:26:43,520 that is meant to help them you know and 615 00:26:48,870 --> 00:26:45,360 that to me is focusing your will on a 616 00:26:50,390 --> 00:26:48,880 given task like helping a sick person 617 00:26:52,230 --> 00:26:50,400 and it's interesting that the egyptians 618 00:26:54,470 --> 00:26:52,240 had similar things but maybe different 619 00:26:56,630 --> 00:26:54,480 methodologies that wouldn't really be 620 00:27:01,110 --> 00:26:56,640 considered a prayer right 621 00:27:04,310 --> 00:27:01,120 yeah it all came back to um 622 00:27:06,470 --> 00:27:04,320 bringing yourself back into presence 623 00:27:08,470 --> 00:27:06,480 and this whole concept of pure 624 00:27:09,750 --> 00:27:08,480 purification 625 00:27:11,510 --> 00:27:09,760 saying that if you were sick or 626 00:27:13,350 --> 00:27:11,520 something was wrong 627 00:27:15,430 --> 00:27:13,360 your mind 628 00:27:17,510 --> 00:27:15,440 is being pulled 629 00:27:19,190 --> 00:27:17,520 in a different place 630 00:27:21,990 --> 00:27:19,200 where your energy is being pulled or 631 00:27:24,870 --> 00:27:22,000 being manipulated by something else 632 00:27:27,750 --> 00:27:24,880 and um you know in ancient times you 633 00:27:29,830 --> 00:27:27,760 know they'd call it demons or devils or 634 00:27:33,350 --> 00:27:29,840 entities or things like this that would 635 00:27:35,909 --> 00:27:33,360 basically make you make you sick 636 00:27:39,750 --> 00:27:35,919 and uh basically what these rituals 637 00:27:41,269 --> 00:27:39,760 would do is try to um cleanse the body 638 00:27:43,909 --> 00:27:41,279 cleanse the mind 639 00:27:45,269 --> 00:27:43,919 bring you back into focus and awareness 640 00:27:47,990 --> 00:27:45,279 so that you're not 641 00:27:50,310 --> 00:27:48,000 all over all over the cell sorry you're 642 00:27:51,510 --> 00:27:50,320 not all over the place 643 00:27:53,590 --> 00:27:51,520 and 644 00:27:55,350 --> 00:27:53,600 basically 645 00:27:57,590 --> 00:27:55,360 the rituals 646 00:27:59,190 --> 00:27:57,600 are about letting go 647 00:28:00,630 --> 00:27:59,200 of the situation 648 00:28:02,549 --> 00:28:00,640 they're about 649 00:28:05,590 --> 00:28:02,559 letting go of your past 650 00:28:07,750 --> 00:28:05,600 letting go of negative thought forms 651 00:28:09,750 --> 00:28:07,760 and and trying to let go of the emotions 652 00:28:12,389 --> 00:28:09,760 by retuning yourself 653 00:28:13,909 --> 00:28:12,399 to the cycles of nature 654 00:28:15,830 --> 00:28:13,919 and i think this is the most important 655 00:28:17,909 --> 00:28:15,840 thing is that this whole thing about 656 00:28:19,029 --> 00:28:17,919 separation from nature 657 00:28:27,909 --> 00:28:19,039 is 658 00:28:30,630 --> 00:28:27,919 and when we start to tune in and 659 00:28:32,389 --> 00:28:30,640 meditate again or tune in and reconnect 660 00:28:34,389 --> 00:28:32,399 to the environment like going out into 661 00:28:36,230 --> 00:28:34,399 the the wilderness 662 00:28:38,230 --> 00:28:36,240 suddenly you're getting back into this 663 00:28:39,750 --> 00:28:38,240 natural cycle 664 00:28:42,149 --> 00:28:39,760 that 665 00:28:44,149 --> 00:28:42,159 pulls whatever these negative influences 666 00:28:46,470 --> 00:28:44,159 are away from you and starts to change 667 00:28:48,630 --> 00:28:46,480 your life in a positive way where you'll 668 00:28:52,070 --> 00:28:48,640 start to heal and i think that is 669 00:28:53,909 --> 00:28:52,080 what the main concept is 670 00:28:55,830 --> 00:28:53,919 when you really go back thousands of 671 00:28:57,750 --> 00:28:55,840 years to look at this 672 00:28:59,990 --> 00:28:57,760 and they taught 673 00:29:01,269 --> 00:29:00,000 many things that would be considered 674 00:29:04,230 --> 00:29:01,279 like uh 675 00:29:06,549 --> 00:29:04,240 meditation postures 676 00:29:08,710 --> 00:29:06,559 stretches like yoga 677 00:29:10,230 --> 00:29:08,720 yeah in detail all this in the book i 678 00:29:12,710 --> 00:29:10,240 haven't actually got up off my butt and 679 00:29:15,350 --> 00:29:12,720 done a lot of these exercises yet but i 680 00:29:17,190 --> 00:29:15,360 also noticed that you spent 681 00:29:19,110 --> 00:29:17,200 one of the other things that struck me 682 00:29:21,669 --> 00:29:19,120 from the book is that there's a lot of 683 00:29:23,350 --> 00:29:21,679 talk about breathing techniques 684 00:29:25,590 --> 00:29:23,360 and i was kind of surprised when i 685 00:29:26,710 --> 00:29:25,600 really took up meditation i went to a 686 00:29:29,029 --> 00:29:26,720 place in philadelphia called the 687 00:29:31,350 --> 00:29:29,039 shimbala center and they have free 688 00:29:33,830 --> 00:29:31,360 classes you know and they have guest 689 00:29:36,149 --> 00:29:33,840 lecturers every month or 690 00:29:38,230 --> 00:29:36,159 and i i i was kind of surprised 691 00:29:39,909 --> 00:29:38,240 that they spend so much time on 692 00:29:42,230 --> 00:29:39,919 breathing techniques too because you 693 00:29:44,630 --> 00:29:42,240 think you oh breathing it's it's i know 694 00:29:46,549 --> 00:29:44,640 i breathe every day like but these sort 695 00:29:51,510 --> 00:29:46,559 of focused 696 00:29:53,590 --> 00:29:51,520 breathing at certain tempos or 697 00:29:55,430 --> 00:29:53,600 or or you know these different methods 698 00:29:58,470 --> 00:29:55,440 they do tend to focus your mind and 699 00:30:00,070 --> 00:29:58,480 quiet down your mind maybe that's why 700 00:30:01,190 --> 00:30:00,080 they work but can you talk for a while 701 00:30:03,190 --> 00:30:01,200 about this 702 00:30:04,710 --> 00:30:03,200 these breathing techniques and and some 703 00:30:06,870 --> 00:30:04,720 of the meditative techniques that you 704 00:30:09,430 --> 00:30:06,880 cover in the book yeah think of the 705 00:30:11,750 --> 00:30:09,440 breath as a regulator 706 00:30:13,990 --> 00:30:11,760 all right so as you breathe deeper and 707 00:30:16,630 --> 00:30:14,000 slower you're actually 708 00:30:19,190 --> 00:30:16,640 relaxing your entire system and the main 709 00:30:21,510 --> 00:30:19,200 breathing system that we talk about 710 00:30:22,630 --> 00:30:21,520 in the book is uh breathing into the 711 00:30:25,110 --> 00:30:22,640 stomach 712 00:30:26,870 --> 00:30:25,120 which is uh in in chinese qigong is 713 00:30:28,789 --> 00:30:26,880 called the dantian 714 00:30:30,789 --> 00:30:28,799 and there's a place it's about an inch 715 00:30:32,310 --> 00:30:30,799 below your belly button in the center of 716 00:30:34,710 --> 00:30:32,320 your stomach 717 00:30:36,389 --> 00:30:34,720 and when you do full body breathing and 718 00:30:38,070 --> 00:30:36,399 you're breathing through your nostrils 719 00:30:40,950 --> 00:30:38,080 and you're taking it right down to your 720 00:30:42,710 --> 00:30:40,960 stomach and expanding your stomach out 721 00:30:45,510 --> 00:30:42,720 and then holding it and then breathing 722 00:30:47,990 --> 00:30:45,520 it out in a very relaxed manner 723 00:30:49,110 --> 00:30:48,000 this is called full body breathing and 724 00:30:50,389 --> 00:30:49,120 it's 725 00:30:52,070 --> 00:30:50,399 oxygenating 726 00:30:54,710 --> 00:30:52,080 your entire body 727 00:30:57,509 --> 00:30:54,720 so it's moving the energy it's calming 728 00:31:01,830 --> 00:30:57,519 and relaxing your body and it starts to 729 00:31:03,269 --> 00:31:01,840 um change even the brain's 730 00:31:05,029 --> 00:31:03,279 frequency range 731 00:31:06,630 --> 00:31:05,039 like you know just oh yeah don't change 732 00:31:08,789 --> 00:31:06,640 it'll change your brainwave patterns for 733 00:31:09,669 --> 00:31:08,799 sure they've done studies on that yeah 734 00:31:11,590 --> 00:31:09,679 and 735 00:31:12,870 --> 00:31:11,600 the interesting thing about brainwave 736 00:31:15,990 --> 00:31:12,880 patterns 737 00:31:18,230 --> 00:31:16,000 is that for the body to heal 738 00:31:19,830 --> 00:31:18,240 it's harder for the body to heal in a 739 00:31:21,669 --> 00:31:19,840 beta consciousness 740 00:31:23,029 --> 00:31:21,679 frequency so when you're active and 741 00:31:23,830 --> 00:31:23,039 awake 742 00:31:25,430 --> 00:31:23,840 um 743 00:31:26,549 --> 00:31:25,440 your body is in a different chemical 744 00:31:28,310 --> 00:31:26,559 system 745 00:31:30,630 --> 00:31:28,320 when you start to relax your body and 746 00:31:33,190 --> 00:31:30,640 let's say do a meditation bring yourself 747 00:31:35,190 --> 00:31:33,200 down into like an alpha state 748 00:31:36,710 --> 00:31:35,200 all right which is between like 7 and 11 749 00:31:39,750 --> 00:31:36,720 hertz 750 00:31:41,990 --> 00:31:39,760 when you bring your your consciousness 751 00:31:43,750 --> 00:31:42,000 down to about the alpha state that's 752 00:31:45,110 --> 00:31:43,760 when the chemistry in your body starts 753 00:31:47,909 --> 00:31:45,120 to change 754 00:31:49,669 --> 00:31:47,919 so you can all start to 755 00:31:51,990 --> 00:31:49,679 be more relaxed let go of the things 756 00:31:53,509 --> 00:31:52,000 you're holding on and there is a healing 757 00:31:54,470 --> 00:31:53,519 mechanism of the body of the immune 758 00:31:56,310 --> 00:31:54,480 system 759 00:31:58,310 --> 00:31:56,320 that kicks in 760 00:32:01,509 --> 00:31:58,320 and when you go deeper so let's say 761 00:32:04,149 --> 00:32:01,519 you're going deeper into deep meditation 762 00:32:06,789 --> 00:32:04,159 or sleep you start to enter into the 763 00:32:08,950 --> 00:32:06,799 theta brain waves and 764 00:32:10,950 --> 00:32:08,960 the delta brain waves 765 00:32:13,110 --> 00:32:10,960 and in these 766 00:32:16,149 --> 00:32:13,120 brain waves the body has a tremendous 767 00:32:17,430 --> 00:32:16,159 ability to heal itself 768 00:32:19,909 --> 00:32:17,440 and i don't know if 769 00:32:22,470 --> 00:32:19,919 you've probably seen the movie inception 770 00:32:25,029 --> 00:32:22,480 you know when they go deeper and deeper 771 00:32:27,190 --> 00:32:25,039 um in the dream they could implant a 772 00:32:29,190 --> 00:32:27,200 very powerful thought or suggestion and 773 00:32:31,029 --> 00:32:29,200 then even though they don't remember 774 00:32:34,149 --> 00:32:31,039 that suggestion they can wake up in the 775 00:32:36,470 --> 00:32:34,159 physical world and then act that out 776 00:32:38,070 --> 00:32:36,480 it's because 777 00:32:41,029 --> 00:32:38,080 i would say each 778 00:32:43,669 --> 00:32:41,039 frequency from delta theta alpha and 779 00:32:45,430 --> 00:32:43,679 beta it's a different altered state of 780 00:32:47,029 --> 00:32:45,440 awareness 781 00:32:50,389 --> 00:32:47,039 and 782 00:32:53,509 --> 00:32:50,399 the deeper you get 783 00:32:55,029 --> 00:32:53,519 into like the the theta and delta state 784 00:32:56,470 --> 00:32:55,039 those are when those programs are very 785 00:32:58,789 --> 00:32:56,480 powerful 786 00:33:00,710 --> 00:32:58,799 in the body 787 00:33:01,590 --> 00:33:00,720 so and i think that's also what they did 788 00:33:03,350 --> 00:33:01,600 with 789 00:33:05,029 --> 00:33:03,360 mk ultra and all that stuff is they 790 00:33:06,230 --> 00:33:05,039 would break 791 00:33:08,549 --> 00:33:06,240 the brain yeah 792 00:33:10,549 --> 00:33:08,559 that's not a very beneficial use of that 793 00:33:12,470 --> 00:33:10,559 knowledge right but you do something 794 00:33:15,029 --> 00:33:12,480 similar to you have the mind hack system 795 00:33:16,710 --> 00:33:15,039 which is very similar to this yeah i i 796 00:33:19,269 --> 00:33:16,720 i've spent a lot of time studying 797 00:33:20,630 --> 00:33:19,279 different brain wave and and how to get 798 00:33:21,830 --> 00:33:20,640 into the state 799 00:33:23,909 --> 00:33:21,840 of each 800 00:33:25,909 --> 00:33:23,919 brainwave pattern as quickly as possible 801 00:33:27,590 --> 00:33:25,919 so binaural beats and some other 802 00:33:29,029 --> 00:33:27,600 meditative techniques 803 00:33:31,750 --> 00:33:29,039 and i thought it would be tremendously 804 00:33:33,669 --> 00:33:31,760 helpful to be in the right state of mind 805 00:33:34,710 --> 00:33:33,679 for what you're trying to accomplish you 806 00:33:37,029 --> 00:33:34,720 know 807 00:33:39,269 --> 00:33:37,039 and what's very interesting 808 00:33:42,870 --> 00:33:39,279 and why breathing is so important is 809 00:33:44,549 --> 00:33:42,880 that does alter your state of awareness 810 00:33:45,909 --> 00:33:44,559 and there are many studies done with 811 00:33:46,870 --> 00:33:45,919 people that 812 00:33:47,590 --> 00:33:46,880 breathe 813 00:33:50,230 --> 00:33:47,600 or 814 00:33:52,470 --> 00:33:50,240 do deep meditation with breathing 815 00:33:55,110 --> 00:33:52,480 and they will actually find uh very 816 00:33:56,389 --> 00:33:55,120 specific uh chemistries in their blood 817 00:33:59,269 --> 00:33:56,399 and urine 818 00:34:01,430 --> 00:33:59,279 and these chemistries are um very 819 00:34:04,149 --> 00:34:01,440 similar to what happens when you're um 820 00:34:06,389 --> 00:34:04,159 dreaming lucid dreaming this is like 821 00:34:09,030 --> 00:34:06,399 they'll find dmt in your blood 822 00:34:10,230 --> 00:34:09,040 you know they'll find these psychedelic 823 00:34:12,710 --> 00:34:10,240 hormones 824 00:34:15,430 --> 00:34:12,720 and chemistry in your blood and urine 825 00:34:17,190 --> 00:34:15,440 by practicing this so 826 00:34:19,430 --> 00:34:17,200 when someone has like an experience they 827 00:34:21,430 --> 00:34:19,440 don't need to take drugs or anything 828 00:34:22,629 --> 00:34:21,440 like that your body automatically 829 00:34:24,710 --> 00:34:22,639 creates 830 00:34:25,589 --> 00:34:24,720 this chemistry by changing your brain 831 00:34:27,109 --> 00:34:25,599 wave 832 00:34:29,510 --> 00:34:27,119 and the facility 833 00:34:31,750 --> 00:34:29,520 of changing your breathing work 834 00:34:35,190 --> 00:34:31,760 so this is very important when it comes 835 00:34:37,750 --> 00:34:35,200 to meditation and postures and ritual 836 00:34:39,270 --> 00:34:37,760 because let's say you're doing a ritual 837 00:34:41,669 --> 00:34:39,280 you know we're talking and this is where 838 00:34:43,750 --> 00:34:41,679 you know magic comes in 839 00:34:44,869 --> 00:34:43,760 it's like how can you perform a certain 840 00:34:47,510 --> 00:34:44,879 function 841 00:34:48,389 --> 00:34:47,520 if your frequency or brain waves 842 00:34:51,669 --> 00:34:48,399 are not 843 00:34:52,629 --> 00:34:51,679 in that range where that chemistry can 844 00:34:54,230 --> 00:34:52,639 be 845 00:34:55,669 --> 00:34:54,240 excreted 846 00:34:59,190 --> 00:34:55,679 basically you know 847 00:34:59,990 --> 00:34:59,200 to get that a desired effect 848 00:35:01,670 --> 00:35:00,000 so it 849 00:35:04,390 --> 00:35:01,680 comes down to you 850 00:35:08,150 --> 00:35:04,400 and um 851 00:35:09,349 --> 00:35:08,160 oh yeah and yeah i just saw that comment 852 00:35:10,230 --> 00:35:09,359 basically 853 00:35:12,790 --> 00:35:10,240 um 854 00:35:13,829 --> 00:35:12,800 one of the oldest 855 00:35:16,790 --> 00:35:13,839 um 856 00:35:18,069 --> 00:35:16,800 one of the oldest symbolism is of the 857 00:35:21,510 --> 00:35:18,079 snake 858 00:35:23,030 --> 00:35:21,520 going up the uh staff 859 00:35:25,030 --> 00:35:23,040 and that is the 860 00:35:27,030 --> 00:35:25,040 the symbol of healing it's the symbol of 861 00:35:28,950 --> 00:35:27,040 magical medicine it's also a symbol of 862 00:35:30,390 --> 00:35:28,960 dna now sort of 863 00:35:33,349 --> 00:35:30,400 spiral 864 00:35:35,750 --> 00:35:33,359 and uh when you go into these systems 865 00:35:37,750 --> 00:35:35,760 if you go into the symbology especially 866 00:35:39,589 --> 00:35:37,760 um 867 00:35:41,030 --> 00:35:39,599 in the ancient vedas 868 00:35:43,750 --> 00:35:41,040 they speak about 869 00:35:45,829 --> 00:35:43,760 uh the coiled serpent which 870 00:35:47,910 --> 00:35:45,839 means the kundalini which is 871 00:35:49,589 --> 00:35:47,920 at the base of your spine 872 00:35:52,150 --> 00:35:49,599 and through very specific breathing 873 00:35:53,349 --> 00:35:52,160 techniques different yoga positions 874 00:35:55,030 --> 00:35:53,359 postures 875 00:35:57,190 --> 00:35:55,040 what they would do is they would bring 876 00:35:59,670 --> 00:35:57,200 the breath of life which is 877 00:36:01,670 --> 00:35:59,680 basically prana your breath 878 00:36:03,829 --> 00:36:01,680 they bring it into the system to 879 00:36:05,910 --> 00:36:03,839 cultivate that energy 880 00:36:08,230 --> 00:36:05,920 and it excites 881 00:36:09,829 --> 00:36:08,240 this energy this kundalini energy at the 882 00:36:12,470 --> 00:36:09,839 base of your spine 883 00:36:15,190 --> 00:36:12,480 and the symbol of that is this 884 00:36:18,310 --> 00:36:16,230 serpent 885 00:36:19,270 --> 00:36:18,320 which is made out of fire going up your 886 00:36:21,109 --> 00:36:19,280 spine 887 00:36:23,349 --> 00:36:21,119 and out through the crown which is the 888 00:36:25,750 --> 00:36:23,359 symbol of healing enlightenment and 889 00:36:28,790 --> 00:36:25,760 things like this and this could be found 890 00:36:33,030 --> 00:36:28,800 all over the place um 891 00:36:36,710 --> 00:36:34,950 oh i'm sorry about that yeah there's a 892 00:36:37,750 --> 00:36:36,720 there's a whole chapter learning to 893 00:36:39,670 --> 00:36:37,760 breathe 894 00:36:42,310 --> 00:36:39,680 and the importance of breath work in 895 00:36:44,150 --> 00:36:42,320 this in these meditative states and i 896 00:36:46,150 --> 00:36:44,160 found that interesting because like i 897 00:36:47,990 --> 00:36:46,160 said the shambhala center most of the 898 00:36:49,829 --> 00:36:48,000 teachers there especially for beginners 899 00:36:52,470 --> 00:36:49,839 were very focused on breath and the 900 00:36:54,230 --> 00:36:52,480 importance of of breath and different 901 00:36:56,710 --> 00:36:54,240 breathing techniques and and different 902 00:36:59,109 --> 00:36:56,720 meditative techniques and i noticed you 903 00:37:00,069 --> 00:36:59,119 also spent a long time on 904 00:37:04,150 --> 00:37:00,079 um 905 00:37:05,990 --> 00:37:04,160 what are they called mudras hand mudras 906 00:37:07,670 --> 00:37:06,000 yes 907 00:37:10,069 --> 00:37:07,680 and there's all these 908 00:37:12,950 --> 00:37:10,079 this i was a little unclear on because i 909 00:37:16,790 --> 00:37:12,960 go i don't understand the importance of 910 00:37:18,630 --> 00:37:16,800 you know different hand uh gestures 911 00:37:20,310 --> 00:37:18,640 but you spend a good deal of time on it 912 00:37:22,230 --> 00:37:20,320 so can we get into that and what are the 913 00:37:24,310 --> 00:37:22,240 benefits of these hand what are they 914 00:37:26,230 --> 00:37:24,320 called mudras or madras 915 00:37:27,670 --> 00:37:26,240 mudras mudra 916 00:37:30,550 --> 00:37:27,680 and uh 917 00:37:33,109 --> 00:37:30,560 okay so if you're looking at the um 918 00:37:35,589 --> 00:37:33,119 let's say the meridian system which is 919 00:37:37,510 --> 00:37:35,599 back in very ancient times in the vedas 920 00:37:39,589 --> 00:37:37,520 it's also in chinese traditional 921 00:37:42,230 --> 00:37:39,599 medicine you have these meridian 922 00:37:43,109 --> 00:37:42,240 channels that flow energy through the 923 00:37:44,870 --> 00:37:43,119 body 924 00:37:45,750 --> 00:37:44,880 yeah these are the end symbols in the 925 00:37:47,430 --> 00:37:45,760 book 926 00:37:49,829 --> 00:37:47,440 and if you 927 00:37:52,550 --> 00:37:49,839 if you look at statues and artwork in 928 00:37:54,230 --> 00:37:52,560 ancient times 929 00:37:56,630 --> 00:37:54,240 basically 930 00:37:58,950 --> 00:37:56,640 almost all of them are in very specific 931 00:38:02,150 --> 00:37:58,960 mudra postures 932 00:38:03,910 --> 00:38:02,160 and what happens is that you have the 933 00:38:06,950 --> 00:38:03,920 meridian system going through the body 934 00:38:08,710 --> 00:38:06,960 and all the exits and entrance points of 935 00:38:10,870 --> 00:38:08,720 the meridian channels 936 00:38:13,270 --> 00:38:10,880 run through your hands and fingers 937 00:38:15,589 --> 00:38:13,280 so you can regulate the flow of energy 938 00:38:17,349 --> 00:38:15,599 of the body by touching certain points 939 00:38:18,630 --> 00:38:17,359 of your finger or holding certain points 940 00:38:21,190 --> 00:38:18,640 of your finger 941 00:38:23,910 --> 00:38:21,200 and like i said in in mysticism you're a 942 00:38:25,670 --> 00:38:23,920 reflection of the universe so 943 00:38:28,310 --> 00:38:25,680 for example you have five 944 00:38:30,950 --> 00:38:28,320 uh or four fingers one thumb 945 00:38:32,870 --> 00:38:30,960 and each finger is an element you know 946 00:38:35,910 --> 00:38:32,880 and they say that the thumb is the fire 947 00:38:37,510 --> 00:38:35,920 element the uh index finger i never 948 00:38:39,829 --> 00:38:37,520 heard about this 949 00:38:40,790 --> 00:38:39,839 this is the air element i got a fire 950 00:38:42,390 --> 00:38:40,800 thumb 951 00:38:45,510 --> 00:38:42,400 well that's right so what happens when 952 00:38:47,270 --> 00:38:45,520 you put uh fire and air together 953 00:38:48,710 --> 00:38:47,280 you know you create you create more 954 00:38:50,790 --> 00:38:48,720 you're feeding the fire you're creating 955 00:38:53,030 --> 00:38:50,800 more heat so holding this 956 00:38:54,310 --> 00:38:53,040 creates this energy surge in the body of 957 00:38:56,950 --> 00:38:54,320 this connection 958 00:38:59,349 --> 00:38:56,960 and every point on the finger connects 959 00:39:00,470 --> 00:38:59,359 to a different organ system inside the 960 00:39:02,470 --> 00:39:00,480 body 961 00:39:05,430 --> 00:39:02,480 so uh if you're trying to regulate the 962 00:39:08,230 --> 00:39:05,440 flow of energy you can hold and meditate 963 00:39:09,750 --> 00:39:08,240 with different points on the body um 964 00:39:11,589 --> 00:39:09,760 very similar to 965 00:39:12,470 --> 00:39:11,599 the acupuncture system or the vedic 966 00:39:14,630 --> 00:39:12,480 system 967 00:39:17,030 --> 00:39:14,640 and if you would hold that point you 968 00:39:19,190 --> 00:39:17,040 draw energy to that point 969 00:39:21,589 --> 00:39:19,200 um in a meditation and regulate that 970 00:39:23,670 --> 00:39:21,599 flow of energy with your breath 971 00:39:25,829 --> 00:39:23,680 and um 972 00:39:28,630 --> 00:39:25,839 that is the whole concept 973 00:39:32,630 --> 00:39:28,640 you know it's not really a far out 974 00:39:38,790 --> 00:39:36,150 the the way that i try to explain this 975 00:39:41,030 --> 00:39:38,800 is um the earth 976 00:39:43,990 --> 00:39:41,040 has a negative polarity 977 00:39:45,990 --> 00:39:44,000 all right it's a giant magnetic sphere 978 00:39:47,190 --> 00:39:46,000 that you're putting your feet on 979 00:39:49,670 --> 00:39:47,200 all right 980 00:39:52,150 --> 00:39:49,680 and then you have your arms your body 981 00:39:54,069 --> 00:39:52,160 you're like a pillar standing vertically 982 00:39:55,990 --> 00:39:54,079 in the atmosphere 983 00:39:59,190 --> 00:39:56,000 and the air around you the atmosphere 984 00:40:01,349 --> 00:39:59,200 around you is a mostly positive charge 985 00:40:03,030 --> 00:40:01,359 you know so you're breathing in a 986 00:40:05,190 --> 00:40:03,040 positive charge 987 00:40:07,190 --> 00:40:05,200 of energy if you're going your water or 988 00:40:09,589 --> 00:40:07,200 certain sources you get more of uh 989 00:40:10,470 --> 00:40:09,599 negative ionization but for mostly the 990 00:40:12,230 --> 00:40:10,480 air is 991 00:40:14,230 --> 00:40:12,240 positive band 992 00:40:16,710 --> 00:40:14,240 electrical so if you're putting your 993 00:40:19,270 --> 00:40:16,720 arms like out into the sky 994 00:40:21,829 --> 00:40:19,280 your hands are touching a positive 995 00:40:24,230 --> 00:40:21,839 potential of electricity your feet are 996 00:40:27,510 --> 00:40:24,240 on the ground you have a negative pull 997 00:40:29,430 --> 00:40:27,520 polarity so as you breathe 998 00:40:31,109 --> 00:40:29,440 you're pulling these two polarities in 999 00:40:34,069 --> 00:40:31,119 your body this this 1000 00:40:36,150 --> 00:40:34,079 positive and negative ionization 1001 00:40:37,430 --> 00:40:36,160 and it's through these postures and 1002 00:40:40,550 --> 00:40:37,440 through the breath technique that you 1003 00:40:42,309 --> 00:40:40,560 start to regulate the flow 1004 00:40:43,910 --> 00:40:42,319 of these energies 1005 00:40:45,349 --> 00:40:43,920 and you know it's like when you when 1006 00:40:46,390 --> 00:40:45,359 you're talking in this community 1007 00:40:49,190 --> 00:40:46,400 everybody says oh you know you're 1008 00:40:51,990 --> 00:40:49,200 talking about woo stuff this is all woo 1009 00:40:53,829 --> 00:40:52,000 i'm like this is the oldest information 1010 00:40:55,910 --> 00:40:53,839 we have available to us 1011 00:40:59,109 --> 00:40:55,920 i'm keeping an open mind but some of me 1012 00:41:00,630 --> 00:40:59,119 did i you know some of it i go huh i 1013 00:41:03,349 --> 00:41:00,640 guess you know 1014 00:41:06,230 --> 00:41:03,359 this connection that every finger is 1015 00:41:08,150 --> 00:41:06,240 connected to some other organ and i i 1016 00:41:09,670 --> 00:41:08,160 just don't know that that's like 1017 00:41:12,390 --> 00:41:09,680 i think what people mean is that this 1018 00:41:13,190 --> 00:41:12,400 isn't exactly like science it's more 1019 00:41:15,430 --> 00:41:13,200 like 1020 00:41:17,430 --> 00:41:15,440 tradition and and 1021 00:41:19,589 --> 00:41:17,440 mysticism and 1022 00:41:21,990 --> 00:41:19,599 you know but who knows right 1023 00:41:23,670 --> 00:41:22,000 right and you know 1024 00:41:25,270 --> 00:41:23,680 this is what's been around for thousands 1025 00:41:27,829 --> 00:41:25,280 of years 1026 00:41:29,109 --> 00:41:27,839 and it continues to grow 1027 00:41:30,309 --> 00:41:29,119 and 1028 00:41:32,150 --> 00:41:30,319 you know i've 1029 00:41:33,670 --> 00:41:32,160 i've interviewed a lot of medical 1030 00:41:35,270 --> 00:41:33,680 doctors 1031 00:41:37,670 --> 00:41:35,280 who run different hospitals i don't know 1032 00:41:39,829 --> 00:41:37,680 if you saw the documentary i did with 1033 00:41:41,510 --> 00:41:39,839 the doctors in italy 1034 00:41:42,950 --> 00:41:41,520 but basically what they're saying is 1035 00:41:46,230 --> 00:41:42,960 that 1036 00:41:48,069 --> 00:41:46,240 even though we know a lot about 1037 00:41:50,470 --> 00:41:48,079 the science and medicine and the human 1038 00:41:52,309 --> 00:41:50,480 body 1039 00:41:55,910 --> 00:41:52,319 there's a lot of techniques a lot of 1040 00:41:58,069 --> 00:41:55,920 medicines and surgeries we do on people 1041 00:42:00,069 --> 00:41:58,079 that just simply don't work 1042 00:42:02,069 --> 00:42:00,079 so even though it should have worked it 1043 00:42:03,430 --> 00:42:02,079 doesn't work and then what they do is 1044 00:42:05,990 --> 00:42:03,440 they bring in 1045 00:42:07,990 --> 00:42:06,000 an integrative site of medicine which is 1046 00:42:10,309 --> 00:42:08,000 like the acupuncture or the massage or 1047 00:42:12,790 --> 00:42:10,319 the meditation or different traditional 1048 00:42:14,870 --> 00:42:12,800 medicines along 1049 00:42:18,150 --> 00:42:14,880 with the normal techniques of drugs and 1050 00:42:19,109 --> 00:42:18,160 surgery and they found that by adding 1051 00:42:22,790 --> 00:42:19,119 this 1052 00:42:24,870 --> 00:42:22,800 element to the healing or the 1053 00:42:27,030 --> 00:42:24,880 traditional element of the healing 1054 00:42:28,390 --> 00:42:27,040 suddenly now these things are starting 1055 00:42:30,309 --> 00:42:28,400 to heal 1056 00:42:32,470 --> 00:42:30,319 yeah you know it's interesting i i had a 1057 00:42:33,910 --> 00:42:32,480 friend that had cancer and he was in 1058 00:42:36,230 --> 00:42:33,920 late stage 1059 00:42:38,150 --> 00:42:36,240 i i don't recall the details but you 1060 00:42:39,829 --> 00:42:38,160 know basically told me he had you know 1061 00:42:42,470 --> 00:42:39,839 six months to live 1062 00:42:45,109 --> 00:42:42,480 and he went totally holistic 1063 00:42:48,230 --> 00:42:45,119 and he continued the regular treatments 1064 00:42:50,309 --> 00:42:48,240 but he he said later that he wasn't even 1065 00:42:51,270 --> 00:42:50,319 sure if this all this stuff that he was 1066 00:42:56,309 --> 00:42:51,280 doing 1067 00:42:57,430 --> 00:42:56,319 that it did do is it focused his entire 1068 00:42:59,270 --> 00:42:57,440 being 1069 00:43:01,510 --> 00:42:59,280 he filled his days we would go to 1070 00:43:04,230 --> 00:43:01,520 acupuncture one day meditation class the 1071 00:43:05,829 --> 00:43:04,240 next day yoga class the next day 1072 00:43:08,069 --> 00:43:05,839 uh herbalist 1073 00:43:09,190 --> 00:43:08,079 you know a nutritionist 1074 00:43:11,430 --> 00:43:09,200 and 1075 00:43:13,190 --> 00:43:11,440 what he said is i don't know 1076 00:43:14,870 --> 00:43:13,200 if any of that stuff was effective but 1077 00:43:16,870 --> 00:43:14,880 there was something about filling my 1078 00:43:19,589 --> 00:43:16,880 time with 1079 00:43:21,109 --> 00:43:19,599 i'm going to focus 100 on healing myself 1080 00:43:23,430 --> 00:43:21,119 and by the way he did he had a 1081 00:43:24,390 --> 00:43:23,440 miraculous sort of healing still alive 1082 00:43:26,790 --> 00:43:24,400 today 1083 00:43:28,790 --> 00:43:26,800 he beat like stage four some kind of you 1084 00:43:30,710 --> 00:43:28,800 know i can't remember the exact cancer 1085 00:43:33,430 --> 00:43:30,720 that he had so it's interesting that 1086 00:43:35,190 --> 00:43:33,440 maybe just focusing the body on 1087 00:43:37,349 --> 00:43:35,200 the healing aspect 1088 00:43:41,030 --> 00:43:37,359 may have some 1089 00:43:42,630 --> 00:43:41,040 he was totally not a believer in any of 1090 00:43:44,069 --> 00:43:42,640 this stuff before he started he said i'm 1091 00:43:45,589 --> 00:43:44,079 going to keep an open mind i'm going to 1092 00:43:47,589 --> 00:43:45,599 go to all these different things i'm 1093 00:43:50,309 --> 00:43:47,599 going to focus myself completely on 1094 00:43:52,550 --> 00:43:50,319 healing and for him it worked but even 1095 00:43:55,109 --> 00:43:52,560 after he he's not sure 1096 00:43:57,750 --> 00:43:55,119 if that stuff was doing anything except 1097 00:44:01,670 --> 00:43:57,760 focusing his mind and his will and all 1098 00:44:04,150 --> 00:44:01,680 of his energies on healing his body 1099 00:44:05,349 --> 00:44:04,160 and this goes back to a very ancient 1100 00:44:07,829 --> 00:44:05,359 concept 1101 00:44:11,109 --> 00:44:07,839 which is 1102 00:44:13,190 --> 00:44:11,119 um where you place your mind is where 1103 00:44:16,069 --> 00:44:13,200 you place your energy 1104 00:44:18,870 --> 00:44:16,079 all right that's as simple as it gets 1105 00:44:20,950 --> 00:44:18,880 and so if you're let's say focusing on 1106 00:44:23,990 --> 00:44:20,960 healing you're putting your actual 1107 00:44:27,430 --> 00:44:24,000 energy to the thought of healing 1108 00:44:28,790 --> 00:44:27,440 and this is why um when in qigong if you 1109 00:44:30,630 --> 00:44:28,800 have a wound 1110 00:44:31,990 --> 00:44:30,640 or if you have something that needs to 1111 00:44:34,390 --> 00:44:32,000 heal what they would do is they would 1112 00:44:35,829 --> 00:44:34,400 bring their mind they would first of all 1113 00:44:38,069 --> 00:44:35,839 they would cancel out all their thoughts 1114 00:44:40,390 --> 00:44:38,079 they'd cancel out all their emotions 1115 00:44:41,589 --> 00:44:40,400 so they could have a single singular 1116 00:44:46,069 --> 00:44:41,599 thought 1117 00:44:47,190 --> 00:44:46,079 the place in their body that needs the 1118 00:44:49,430 --> 00:44:47,200 healing 1119 00:44:52,870 --> 00:44:49,440 and they would just put their mind in 1120 00:44:54,309 --> 00:44:52,880 that location and start breathing 1121 00:44:55,510 --> 00:44:54,319 and by doing that you're bringing your 1122 00:44:57,829 --> 00:44:55,520 awareness 1123 00:44:59,349 --> 00:44:57,839 you're bringing the energy flow 1124 00:45:00,309 --> 00:44:59,359 and remember when you put your mind 1125 00:45:02,390 --> 00:45:00,319 there 1126 00:45:05,510 --> 00:45:02,400 you're bringing oxygen so oxygen will go 1127 00:45:07,750 --> 00:45:05,520 to that area and there's meditative 1128 00:45:10,069 --> 00:45:07,760 techniques that you can practice 1129 00:45:11,670 --> 00:45:10,079 where you start to breathe deeply that 1130 00:45:13,510 --> 00:45:11,680 full body breathing 1131 00:45:15,670 --> 00:45:13,520 and then once you start to feel that 1132 00:45:17,910 --> 00:45:15,680 flow through your body 1133 00:45:20,470 --> 00:45:17,920 what you do is you take your mind and 1134 00:45:21,430 --> 00:45:20,480 you you focus it on one place of your 1135 00:45:23,750 --> 00:45:21,440 body 1136 00:45:26,230 --> 00:45:23,760 so uh for example 1137 00:45:27,910 --> 00:45:26,240 what i used to do is i would focus it on 1138 00:45:30,710 --> 00:45:27,920 say like my big toe 1139 00:45:33,349 --> 00:45:30,720 right so i just take my whole mind and 1140 00:45:34,309 --> 00:45:33,359 thought and focus it on my big toe 1141 00:45:38,630 --> 00:45:34,319 and 1142 00:45:39,670 --> 00:45:38,640 it's almost like my big toe started to 1143 00:45:41,270 --> 00:45:39,680 breathe 1144 00:45:43,750 --> 00:45:41,280 so it's like i could feel this kind of 1145 00:45:45,990 --> 00:45:43,760 pull and a push of this air coming 1146 00:45:49,109 --> 00:45:46,000 through my toe 1147 00:45:50,790 --> 00:45:49,119 you know uh okay 1148 00:45:52,710 --> 00:45:50,800 i'm not i'm not saying i'm physically 1149 00:45:55,109 --> 00:45:52,720 breathing through the tongue and i have 1150 00:45:56,470 --> 00:45:55,119 to try that i'm saying that 1151 00:45:58,390 --> 00:45:56,480 what you're doing is you're focusing 1152 00:46:00,470 --> 00:45:58,400 your intention on a very specific point 1153 00:46:02,470 --> 00:46:00,480 and it's almost like there's this 1154 00:46:04,950 --> 00:46:02,480 communication of this opening and 1155 00:46:07,510 --> 00:46:04,960 closing or pulling or pushing of this 1156 00:46:09,190 --> 00:46:07,520 energy or air into that point 1157 00:46:10,950 --> 00:46:09,200 of the body that 1158 00:46:13,349 --> 00:46:10,960 people that meditate can start to feel 1159 00:46:14,870 --> 00:46:13,359 or experience what that feels like 1160 00:46:18,150 --> 00:46:14,880 and the reason 1161 00:46:20,470 --> 00:46:18,160 i really got into breathing techniques 1162 00:46:22,470 --> 00:46:20,480 um was 1163 00:46:24,150 --> 00:46:22,480 2017 1164 00:46:26,309 --> 00:46:24,160 i fell down the stairs and i broke my 1165 00:46:27,270 --> 00:46:26,319 back right 1166 00:46:29,510 --> 00:46:27,280 and that 1167 00:46:30,390 --> 00:46:29,520 was was was awful 1168 00:46:33,430 --> 00:46:30,400 and 1169 00:46:35,750 --> 00:46:33,440 you know up until that time since about 1170 00:46:38,710 --> 00:46:35,760 um 1171 00:46:40,829 --> 00:46:38,720 i was doing a lot of postures and a lot 1172 00:46:43,589 --> 00:46:40,839 of uh the rituals 1173 00:46:46,550 --> 00:46:43,599 right for my healing but 1174 00:46:47,510 --> 00:46:46,560 when i'm in the hospital and i can't 1175 00:46:49,430 --> 00:46:47,520 move 1176 00:46:50,870 --> 00:46:49,440 literally i'm like 1177 00:46:52,470 --> 00:46:50,880 i don't want to say i was paralyzed 1178 00:46:54,790 --> 00:46:52,480 because i wasn't paralyzed but i could 1179 00:46:56,950 --> 00:46:54,800 barely move 1180 00:46:59,829 --> 00:46:56,960 and uh the only thing i could do when i 1181 00:47:02,390 --> 00:46:59,839 was in the hospital was breathe 1182 00:47:05,829 --> 00:47:02,400 that was my 1183 00:47:09,510 --> 00:47:05,839 [Music] 1184 00:47:11,349 --> 00:47:09,520 um my spiritual connection when i was in 1185 00:47:13,190 --> 00:47:11,359 the hospital was only through my breath 1186 00:47:13,910 --> 00:47:13,200 in my mind 1187 00:47:14,790 --> 00:47:13,920 so 1188 00:47:16,309 --> 00:47:14,800 um 1189 00:47:17,589 --> 00:47:16,319 and i 1190 00:47:21,349 --> 00:47:17,599 i'm like i don't want to say i'm 1191 00:47:23,589 --> 00:47:21,359 allergic but i'm not good on opiates 1192 00:47:26,549 --> 00:47:23,599 like i'm just it's just something with i 1193 00:47:28,470 --> 00:47:26,559 can't i am this exact same way 1194 00:47:30,950 --> 00:47:28,480 i had a brain aneurysm they loaded me up 1195 00:47:31,750 --> 00:47:30,960 on opiates for months and i i just i 1196 00:47:33,510 --> 00:47:31,760 just 1197 00:47:36,829 --> 00:47:33,520 i couldn't take them i was like slurring 1198 00:47:39,430 --> 00:47:36,839 my words and and i couldn't function and 1199 00:47:41,349 --> 00:47:39,440 yeah not good i i when i'm in the 1200 00:47:42,549 --> 00:47:41,359 hospital with a broken back and post 1201 00:47:43,750 --> 00:47:42,559 surgery 1202 00:47:46,230 --> 00:47:43,760 you know they're trying to pump me 1203 00:47:48,230 --> 00:47:46,240 through a vote like uh morphine and 1204 00:47:49,910 --> 00:47:48,240 things and i keep you know saying no no 1205 00:47:52,549 --> 00:47:49,920 no i don't want it 1206 00:47:54,069 --> 00:47:52,559 so i'm like at 11 out of 10 pain 1207 00:47:56,230 --> 00:47:54,079 constantly 1208 00:47:57,990 --> 00:47:56,240 and the only thing that i would do is 1209 00:48:00,069 --> 00:47:58,000 the breathing exercises because i know 1210 00:48:04,230 --> 00:48:00,079 that would bring the pain down 1211 00:48:06,790 --> 00:48:04,240 and i started to have these intense 1212 00:48:08,630 --> 00:48:06,800 spiritual healing experiences 1213 00:48:11,990 --> 00:48:08,640 in the hospital 1214 00:48:14,230 --> 00:48:12,000 just by doing these breathing techniques 1215 00:48:16,950 --> 00:48:14,240 and 1216 00:48:20,630 --> 00:48:16,960 that really changed the game for me 1217 00:48:22,950 --> 00:48:20,640 um to actually experience 1218 00:48:26,630 --> 00:48:22,960 something happening that i could not 1219 00:48:29,829 --> 00:48:28,309 using these breathing techniques in a 1220 00:48:31,510 --> 00:48:29,839 positive way 1221 00:48:33,430 --> 00:48:31,520 and you know i could describe the 1222 00:48:34,630 --> 00:48:33,440 experience 1223 00:48:36,630 --> 00:48:34,640 um 1224 00:48:38,950 --> 00:48:36,640 basically i i was doing this breathing 1225 00:48:41,750 --> 00:48:38,960 technique in the hospital 1226 00:48:43,109 --> 00:48:41,760 and it put me into this altered state of 1227 00:48:44,630 --> 00:48:43,119 consciousness 1228 00:48:47,430 --> 00:48:44,640 you know think of it like a 1229 00:48:49,190 --> 00:48:47,440 visualization of a lucid dream 1230 00:48:52,069 --> 00:48:49,200 and i saw this 1231 00:48:53,990 --> 00:48:52,079 coil it looked like this 1232 00:48:55,910 --> 00:48:54,000 looked like a heating element on a stove 1233 00:48:57,990 --> 00:48:55,920 like this coil 1234 00:49:00,069 --> 00:48:58,000 and there was this field it would just 1235 00:49:02,870 --> 00:49:00,079 look like this invisible field that you 1236 00:49:05,430 --> 00:49:02,880 can see the outline of and every time i 1237 00:49:08,390 --> 00:49:05,440 breathed this field got closer and 1238 00:49:09,829 --> 00:49:08,400 closer to this coil 1239 00:49:11,910 --> 00:49:09,839 and once 1240 00:49:14,150 --> 00:49:11,920 i got this feel to touch the coil the 1241 00:49:15,349 --> 00:49:14,160 coil just lit up like a stove a heating 1242 00:49:17,670 --> 00:49:15,359 element 1243 00:49:19,750 --> 00:49:17,680 turned bro you meant this in the book 1244 00:49:22,230 --> 00:49:19,760 the heat and the heat yeah it's it's 1245 00:49:23,750 --> 00:49:22,240 right before the breathing part yeah and 1246 00:49:26,069 --> 00:49:23,760 this is what kind of 1247 00:49:27,670 --> 00:49:26,079 what this was like the eureka moment 1248 00:49:28,630 --> 00:49:27,680 where suddenly actually something 1249 00:49:30,309 --> 00:49:28,640 happened 1250 00:49:31,750 --> 00:49:30,319 in my breathing meditations that just 1251 00:49:34,470 --> 00:49:31,760 blew my mind 1252 00:49:37,670 --> 00:49:34,480 because it was it was very physical it 1253 00:49:39,910 --> 00:49:37,680 was a very physical experience 1254 00:49:41,990 --> 00:49:39,920 where once this heating element 1255 00:49:43,349 --> 00:49:42,000 visualization that i saw 1256 00:49:44,950 --> 00:49:43,359 turned red 1257 00:49:47,349 --> 00:49:44,960 suddenly it felt like there was an 1258 00:49:50,630 --> 00:49:47,359 explosion in my body 1259 00:49:53,750 --> 00:49:50,640 it was like every single cell in my body 1260 00:49:55,430 --> 00:49:53,760 uh was switched on and it's like 1261 00:49:57,589 --> 00:49:55,440 it just felt like fire it's like every 1262 00:50:00,150 --> 00:49:57,599 cell in my body just turned to fire at 1263 00:50:02,150 --> 00:50:00,160 once i got so hot 1264 00:50:04,630 --> 00:50:02,160 and i knew that i had to focus on my 1265 00:50:06,470 --> 00:50:04,640 back where i broke it 1266 00:50:08,870 --> 00:50:06,480 and so i just continued the breathing my 1267 00:50:11,270 --> 00:50:08,880 i felt this fire through my body and 1268 00:50:14,309 --> 00:50:11,280 then i took the mind and i singularly 1269 00:50:16,390 --> 00:50:14,319 focused it on my spine 1270 00:50:18,630 --> 00:50:16,400 and the pain went 1271 00:50:21,910 --> 00:50:18,640 so much worse 1272 00:50:23,750 --> 00:50:21,920 and 1273 00:50:28,470 --> 00:50:23,760 it felt like 1274 00:50:30,630 --> 00:50:28,480 shifting like i was having a lot of 1275 00:50:31,670 --> 00:50:30,640 muscle spasms 1276 00:50:33,190 --> 00:50:31,680 and 1277 00:50:34,470 --> 00:50:33,200 the 1278 00:50:37,270 --> 00:50:34,480 i can't explain 1279 00:50:39,349 --> 00:50:37,280 it felt like the muscles were realigning 1280 00:50:41,190 --> 00:50:39,359 themselves in my back 1281 00:50:43,030 --> 00:50:41,200 and it was a very pr 1282 00:50:44,710 --> 00:50:43,040 painful process and i could hear these 1283 00:50:46,950 --> 00:50:44,720 pops or clicks 1284 00:50:48,630 --> 00:50:46,960 like my back was straightening out or 1285 00:50:50,390 --> 00:50:48,640 something was happening in my back when 1286 00:50:52,549 --> 00:50:50,400 i was doing this 1287 00:50:54,630 --> 00:50:52,559 and after i came out of this 1288 00:50:57,750 --> 00:50:54,640 my healing 1289 00:51:00,390 --> 00:50:57,760 my back was very very quick 1290 00:51:01,430 --> 00:51:00,400 very quick after this 1291 00:51:03,349 --> 00:51:01,440 and 1292 00:51:05,109 --> 00:51:03,359 it was all the only thought that came to 1293 00:51:07,750 --> 00:51:05,119 my mind was 1294 00:51:10,309 --> 00:51:07,760 there's something in our bodies like 1295 00:51:12,390 --> 00:51:10,319 everybody has this it's like a type of 1296 00:51:14,390 --> 00:51:12,400 energetic immune system 1297 00:51:17,589 --> 00:51:14,400 that when the body is in a very 1298 00:51:20,549 --> 00:51:17,599 traumatized or bad state 1299 00:51:21,670 --> 00:51:20,559 sometimes it can activate 1300 00:51:25,510 --> 00:51:21,680 and 1301 00:51:27,349 --> 00:51:25,520 do a very quick healing on the body 1302 00:51:29,670 --> 00:51:27,359 um 1303 00:51:31,829 --> 00:51:29,680 so that's why i got really into 1304 00:51:32,710 --> 00:51:31,839 breathing exercises because i actually 1305 00:51:34,950 --> 00:51:32,720 had 1306 00:51:36,630 --> 00:51:34,960 an experience that just 1307 00:51:39,349 --> 00:51:36,640 you know once i had that experience i 1308 00:51:41,829 --> 00:51:39,359 couldn't uh ignore the power 1309 00:51:44,069 --> 00:51:41,839 of what breathing can do 1310 00:51:46,390 --> 00:51:44,079 yeah and i thought we could take 1311 00:51:48,549 --> 00:51:46,400 a moment to talk about 1312 00:51:51,190 --> 00:51:48,559 what what you feel the benefits of the 1313 00:51:54,230 --> 00:51:51,200 meditative techniques in here are for 1314 00:51:56,069 --> 00:51:54,240 your life because like for me 1315 00:51:58,150 --> 00:51:56,079 you know i started studying 1316 00:52:01,670 --> 00:51:58,160 meditation and and i found certain 1317 00:52:02,829 --> 00:52:01,680 benefits to continually doing it like 1318 00:52:05,589 --> 00:52:02,839 emotional 1319 00:52:07,829 --> 00:52:05,599 awareness and and also the other big 1320 00:52:09,829 --> 00:52:07,839 thing that i get from it is this 1321 00:52:10,790 --> 00:52:09,839 um 1322 00:52:12,790 --> 00:52:10,800 lack of 1323 00:52:16,230 --> 00:52:12,800 less less of an ego i don't want to say 1324 00:52:18,069 --> 00:52:16,240 lack of an ego but less of an ego 1325 00:52:19,270 --> 00:52:18,079 feeling connected to the rest of the 1326 00:52:21,829 --> 00:52:19,280 world and 1327 00:52:23,430 --> 00:52:21,839 and also the emotional awareness was a 1328 00:52:24,950 --> 00:52:23,440 big thing for me because i used to be 1329 00:52:26,950 --> 00:52:24,960 prone to like 1330 00:52:28,470 --> 00:52:26,960 get pissed off i would go from zero to 1331 00:52:30,710 --> 00:52:28,480 ten right away 1332 00:52:32,710 --> 00:52:30,720 but meditation helped me to 1333 00:52:35,430 --> 00:52:32,720 have a greater awareness emotional 1334 00:52:37,589 --> 00:52:35,440 awareness to know okay i'm getting upset 1335 00:52:40,630 --> 00:52:37,599 i'm getting more upset and learn to push 1336 00:52:42,950 --> 00:52:40,640 that back before i would just 1337 00:52:45,589 --> 00:52:42,960 pop off and get pissed off 1338 00:52:46,950 --> 00:52:45,599 and also impermanence 1339 00:52:49,349 --> 00:52:46,960 the meditate the impermanence 1340 00:52:51,670 --> 00:52:49,359 meditations in a lot of buddhist 1341 00:52:54,230 --> 00:52:51,680 philosophy is like just a realization 1342 00:52:55,990 --> 00:52:54,240 that everything is is temporary 1343 00:52:57,829 --> 00:52:56,000 including me 1344 00:52:59,829 --> 00:52:57,839 and and there's a lot of benefit to that 1345 00:53:01,430 --> 00:52:59,839 you you start valuing time more you 1346 00:53:03,589 --> 00:53:01,440 start valuing time with people that you 1347 00:53:06,230 --> 00:53:03,599 care about more because you realize 1348 00:53:07,990 --> 00:53:06,240 you're you're an impermanent being your 1349 00:53:08,870 --> 00:53:08,000 your time is short 1350 00:53:10,950 --> 00:53:08,880 but 1351 00:53:13,190 --> 00:53:10,960 i wonder if you could talk about 1352 00:53:14,470 --> 00:53:13,200 some of the benefits that people may 1353 00:53:16,470 --> 00:53:14,480 experience 1354 00:53:19,030 --> 00:53:16,480 through the the meditative techniques 1355 00:53:20,390 --> 00:53:19,040 that you're teaching in this book 1356 00:53:22,470 --> 00:53:20,400 okay because they're different they're 1357 00:53:25,349 --> 00:53:22,480 they're they're they're similar some of 1358 00:53:27,510 --> 00:53:25,359 them are similar or reminded me of 1359 00:53:30,549 --> 00:53:27,520 sort of buddhist kind of 1360 00:53:32,230 --> 00:53:30,559 meditating for philosophy but also 1361 00:53:34,950 --> 00:53:32,240 christian prayers some of them reminded 1362 00:53:36,470 --> 00:53:34,960 me of and ritual 1363 00:53:38,870 --> 00:53:36,480 but i wondered if you could talk about 1364 00:53:40,470 --> 00:53:38,880 what kind of benefits you felt i mean 1365 00:53:43,190 --> 00:53:40,480 obviously you felt the need to write 1366 00:53:44,790 --> 00:53:43,200 this book and and it comes from a place 1367 00:53:46,790 --> 00:53:44,800 i will say this this book comes from a 1368 00:53:48,309 --> 00:53:46,800 place that i think is like 1369 00:53:50,470 --> 00:53:48,319 jason saying 1370 00:53:52,150 --> 00:53:50,480 i have discovered all of these things 1371 00:53:54,470 --> 00:53:52,160 and i've put this system together and 1372 00:53:56,150 --> 00:53:54,480 it's been very beneficial for me and now 1373 00:53:58,069 --> 00:53:56,160 i want to teach it to other people so 1374 00:53:59,750 --> 00:53:58,079 it's coming from a good place 1375 00:54:02,230 --> 00:53:59,760 but i wonder if you can talk about like 1376 00:54:03,349 --> 00:54:02,240 on the personal level what benefits that 1377 00:54:05,430 --> 00:54:03,359 you get 1378 00:54:09,270 --> 00:54:05,440 from following some of the meditate 1379 00:54:10,390 --> 00:54:09,280 meditations and and things in this book 1380 00:54:12,390 --> 00:54:10,400 um 1381 00:54:15,430 --> 00:54:12,400 in a simplistic term 1382 00:54:17,349 --> 00:54:15,440 it's about uh being present 1383 00:54:18,710 --> 00:54:17,359 and learning about yourself 1384 00:54:20,790 --> 00:54:18,720 so when you're meditating you're 1385 00:54:23,270 --> 00:54:20,800 basically turning inwards and you're 1386 00:54:25,109 --> 00:54:23,280 learning about who you are 1387 00:54:26,549 --> 00:54:25,119 you're kind of blocking out the 1388 00:54:28,710 --> 00:54:26,559 environment around you and you're 1389 00:54:31,589 --> 00:54:28,720 sitting with yourself 1390 00:54:35,670 --> 00:54:33,910 it's it's very strange because 1391 00:54:37,270 --> 00:54:35,680 the way i grew up 1392 00:54:38,950 --> 00:54:37,280 the way that i thought the way i 1393 00:54:42,069 --> 00:54:38,960 presented myself 1394 00:54:44,950 --> 00:54:42,079 the way that i spoke to people 1395 00:54:48,549 --> 00:54:44,960 it came from a very different place 1396 00:54:52,390 --> 00:54:50,630 think about the whole scenario of what i 1397 00:54:54,390 --> 00:54:52,400 would say to somebody 1398 00:54:56,150 --> 00:54:54,400 or think about the whole scenario of 1399 00:54:57,910 --> 00:54:56,160 what i would do 1400 00:54:59,990 --> 00:54:57,920 and then i would take that internally 1401 00:55:01,670 --> 00:55:00,000 and then project it out and see what 1402 00:55:03,589 --> 00:55:01,680 happens 1403 00:55:05,910 --> 00:55:03,599 and after meditation it was the complete 1404 00:55:07,510 --> 00:55:05,920 opposite it's like i just kind of went 1405 00:55:09,270 --> 00:55:07,520 with the flow i never really thought of 1406 00:55:11,030 --> 00:55:09,280 what i was going to say or what i was 1407 00:55:13,510 --> 00:55:11,040 going to do is just 1408 00:55:15,190 --> 00:55:13,520 i allowed whatever would come out to 1409 00:55:17,109 --> 00:55:15,200 come out 1410 00:55:20,150 --> 00:55:17,119 but with meditation it comes down to 1411 00:55:21,750 --> 00:55:20,160 sense and sensitivity 1412 00:55:24,789 --> 00:55:21,760 and 1413 00:55:27,030 --> 00:55:24,799 i never realized how numb i actually i 1414 00:55:28,390 --> 00:55:27,040 was growing up and i don't know if it's 1415 00:55:29,829 --> 00:55:28,400 because we're all collectively 1416 00:55:33,270 --> 00:55:29,839 traumatized 1417 00:55:35,030 --> 00:55:33,280 but i didn't understand how to integrate 1418 00:55:36,390 --> 00:55:35,040 emotional things i didn't really know 1419 00:55:38,230 --> 00:55:36,400 how to integrate 1420 00:55:40,470 --> 00:55:38,240 things that were hard on 1421 00:55:42,390 --> 00:55:40,480 my mind 1422 00:55:43,750 --> 00:55:42,400 or even traumas physical traumas i 1423 00:55:45,510 --> 00:55:43,760 didn't know how to integrate that or 1424 00:55:48,549 --> 00:55:45,520 know what to do with that 1425 00:55:51,270 --> 00:55:48,559 so i became very numb 1426 00:55:53,910 --> 00:55:51,280 to situations i became very numb to my 1427 00:55:55,829 --> 00:55:53,920 environment and very numb to myself 1428 00:55:57,109 --> 00:55:55,839 and i found that by going deep into 1429 00:55:59,510 --> 00:55:57,119 meditation 1430 00:56:00,390 --> 00:55:59,520 i started to get this sense of feeling 1431 00:56:02,710 --> 00:56:00,400 again 1432 00:56:05,829 --> 00:56:02,720 that i that i didn't have 1433 00:56:08,710 --> 00:56:05,839 growing up or i can't remember having it 1434 00:56:09,829 --> 00:56:08,720 and it was almost like the body itself 1435 00:56:12,710 --> 00:56:09,839 has this 1436 00:56:15,829 --> 00:56:12,720 consciousness or communication to it 1437 00:56:18,630 --> 00:56:15,839 where when you start to cut out the mind 1438 00:56:21,349 --> 00:56:18,640 and just breathe and be within the body 1439 00:56:23,109 --> 00:56:21,359 just be present within the body 1440 00:56:24,710 --> 00:56:23,119 the body will communicate to you in 1441 00:56:26,549 --> 00:56:24,720 certain ways 1442 00:56:28,069 --> 00:56:26,559 and that body and and the communication 1443 00:56:31,349 --> 00:56:28,079 will be through feeling 1444 00:56:32,630 --> 00:56:31,359 so you may feel pain or tingling or 1445 00:56:35,829 --> 00:56:32,640 colds 1446 00:56:40,630 --> 00:56:38,309 memories might come up 1447 00:56:42,150 --> 00:56:40,640 emotions might come up just by tuning 1448 00:56:43,190 --> 00:56:42,160 everything else and just letting your 1449 00:56:46,150 --> 00:56:43,200 body 1450 00:56:48,150 --> 00:56:46,160 unwind itself or communicate with you 1451 00:56:49,910 --> 00:56:48,160 and i find that 1452 00:56:52,630 --> 00:56:49,920 where i found that by doing these type 1453 00:56:55,750 --> 00:56:52,640 of meditations 1454 00:56:57,750 --> 00:56:55,760 i kind of got a relationship to 1455 00:57:00,390 --> 00:56:57,760 my body consciousness where i didn't 1456 00:57:02,470 --> 00:57:00,400 have that before 1457 00:57:04,470 --> 00:57:02,480 so for example you know you can call it 1458 00:57:06,230 --> 00:57:04,480 like energetic healing or things like 1459 00:57:08,549 --> 00:57:06,240 that where 1460 00:57:11,270 --> 00:57:08,559 i would meditate and i'd feel 1461 00:57:12,630 --> 00:57:11,280 a sharp pain in my body for example 1462 00:57:14,789 --> 00:57:12,640 and then i would bring my breath and 1463 00:57:17,510 --> 00:57:14,799 focus into that pain 1464 00:57:19,750 --> 00:57:17,520 and it's almost like the body would have 1465 00:57:21,270 --> 00:57:19,760 an opportunity to release that from its 1466 00:57:23,109 --> 00:57:21,280 system 1467 00:57:26,230 --> 00:57:23,119 so you're getting to the whole benefit 1468 00:57:27,750 --> 00:57:26,240 of meditation is to tune into yourself 1469 00:57:30,470 --> 00:57:27,760 be present 1470 00:57:31,270 --> 00:57:30,480 become more sensitive 1471 00:57:33,910 --> 00:57:31,280 and 1472 00:57:35,510 --> 00:57:33,920 explore your senses 1473 00:57:38,549 --> 00:57:35,520 so it takes you out of this numbness 1474 00:57:41,030 --> 00:57:38,559 that we've kind of been lulled into 1475 00:57:43,349 --> 00:57:41,040 and you develop this other relationship 1476 00:57:45,589 --> 00:57:43,359 that makes you stronger and as an 1477 00:57:47,430 --> 00:57:45,599 individual 1478 00:57:50,870 --> 00:57:47,440 i believe that 1479 00:57:52,470 --> 00:57:50,880 uh it gave me a lot of self-confidence 1480 00:57:54,390 --> 00:57:52,480 i mean i would never 1481 00:57:55,270 --> 00:57:54,400 speak publicly that would be a nightmare 1482 00:57:57,109 --> 00:57:55,280 for me 1483 00:57:59,270 --> 00:57:57,119 you know really you don't strike me as 1484 00:58:00,710 --> 00:57:59,280 being very shy about public speaking but 1485 00:58:02,470 --> 00:58:00,720 i guess maybe 1486 00:58:05,589 --> 00:58:02,480 it's a hurdle that you had to get over 1487 00:58:07,349 --> 00:58:05,599 right i was very very shy i probably 1488 00:58:09,109 --> 00:58:07,359 wouldn't do you remember do you remember 1489 00:58:11,510 --> 00:58:09,119 the first time you ever had to perform 1490 00:58:14,230 --> 00:58:11,520 in front of people like music i i went 1491 00:58:16,950 --> 00:58:14,240 to bathroom and i puked my brains out 1492 00:58:19,270 --> 00:58:16,960 and then i went all right i'm good like 1493 00:58:21,349 --> 00:58:19,280 i puked out every ounce of whatever was 1494 00:58:23,670 --> 00:58:21,359 in my stomach and i was like but then i 1495 00:58:25,750 --> 00:58:23,680 was still paranoid so i had i had the 1496 00:58:27,670 --> 00:58:25,760 drummer get a bucket and put a bucket 1497 00:58:30,789 --> 00:58:27,680 behind the drum set just in case i had a 1498 00:58:32,470 --> 00:58:30,799 puke again during the show 1499 00:58:35,030 --> 00:58:32,480 people wouldn't be able to see me you 1500 00:58:36,789 --> 00:58:35,040 know but my point is i i had problems 1501 00:58:39,910 --> 00:58:36,799 too i had tremendous stage fright but 1502 00:58:41,829 --> 00:58:39,920 once i i just got over it i just went i 1503 00:58:43,910 --> 00:58:41,839 i just got to do this i don't have a 1504 00:58:45,109 --> 00:58:43,920 choice here like you know 1505 00:58:47,270 --> 00:58:45,119 so i guess you have to have the same 1506 00:58:49,670 --> 00:58:47,280 thing i can't imagine you being too shy 1507 00:58:52,390 --> 00:58:49,680 to be a public speaker but yeah well i i 1508 00:58:54,230 --> 00:58:52,400 was i mean i couldn't if you 1509 00:58:56,549 --> 00:58:54,240 it would be comedic to watch me in high 1510 00:58:58,789 --> 00:58:56,559 school or college uh speak because i 1511 00:59:01,829 --> 00:58:58,799 would have the cue cards and i'd be i'd 1512 00:59:04,870 --> 00:59:01,839 be the guy shaking with the cue cards 1513 00:59:07,030 --> 00:59:04,880 reading them um but you know when i was 1514 00:59:09,829 --> 00:59:07,040 in a band in high school 1515 00:59:11,910 --> 00:59:09,839 um my biggest fear was just screwing up 1516 00:59:13,030 --> 00:59:11,920 or forgetting you know the what i was 1517 00:59:15,030 --> 00:59:13,040 playing 1518 00:59:18,150 --> 00:59:15,040 but you know being in a metal band i had 1519 00:59:19,990 --> 00:59:18,160 my my zoom 1010 pedal with like 10 out 1520 00:59:24,470 --> 00:59:20,000 of 10 distortions so it didn't matter 1521 00:59:30,390 --> 00:59:27,430 but yes uh but yes like 1522 00:59:31,430 --> 00:59:30,400 you have to find the system that speaks 1523 00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:31,440 to you 1524 00:59:35,109 --> 00:59:32,730 and i remember when 1525 00:59:37,349 --> 00:59:35,119 [Music] 1526 00:59:39,270 --> 00:59:37,359 i used to travel to japan for about two 1527 00:59:41,109 --> 00:59:39,280 months every year for the past like 10 1528 00:59:42,870 --> 00:59:41,119 years 1529 00:59:44,470 --> 00:59:42,880 and you know 1530 00:59:48,390 --> 00:59:44,480 i have a real connection with the 1531 00:59:51,109 --> 00:59:48,400 japanese culture i really love it there 1532 00:59:52,870 --> 00:59:51,119 and one of my friends took me to 1533 00:59:55,349 --> 00:59:52,880 a shinto temple 1534 00:59:56,870 --> 00:59:55,359 a buddhist shinto temple 1535 00:59:58,549 --> 00:59:56,880 and 1536 01:00:00,630 --> 00:59:58,559 was taught by 1537 01:00:02,549 --> 01:00:00,640 this master 1538 01:00:04,549 --> 01:00:02,559 in meditation 1539 01:00:06,390 --> 01:00:04,559 and basically they would they would just 1540 01:00:08,309 --> 01:00:06,400 sit you there they put you in a very 1541 01:00:10,069 --> 01:00:08,319 specific position that you had to be in 1542 01:00:12,789 --> 01:00:10,079 to meditate 1543 01:00:15,030 --> 01:00:12,799 and the rules were 1544 01:00:18,150 --> 01:00:15,040 don't go to sleep 1545 01:00:21,750 --> 01:00:18,160 don't let your mind travel 1546 01:00:24,150 --> 01:00:21,760 be completely aware of where you are 1547 01:00:26,230 --> 01:00:24,160 at this moment in time 1548 01:00:27,510 --> 01:00:26,240 and just breathe 1549 01:00:29,910 --> 01:00:27,520 you know and i thought it was like this 1550 01:00:32,309 --> 01:00:29,920 whole complicated thing 1551 01:00:34,470 --> 01:00:32,319 and it was like no you just have to be 1552 01:00:35,750 --> 01:00:34,480 here once your mind starts to travel 1553 01:00:38,309 --> 01:00:35,760 somewhere else 1554 01:00:39,910 --> 01:00:38,319 stop that immediately yeah i i had a 1555 01:00:42,470 --> 01:00:39,920 huge problem with that learning to 1556 01:00:44,789 --> 01:00:42,480 meditate at first but you get better at 1557 01:00:46,390 --> 01:00:44,799 pushing those thoughts back and and 1558 01:00:48,870 --> 01:00:46,400 coming back to uh 1559 01:00:50,309 --> 01:00:48,880 sort of blank mind state or trying to 1560 01:00:52,470 --> 01:00:50,319 anyway 1561 01:00:54,069 --> 01:00:52,480 yes and um 1562 01:00:55,829 --> 01:00:54,079 you know we were talking earlier it's 1563 01:00:57,670 --> 01:00:55,839 funny that it's that simple sometimes 1564 01:01:00,630 --> 01:00:57,680 it's not yeah people think meditation is 1565 01:01:02,789 --> 01:01:00,640 so complicated i mean 1566 01:01:05,030 --> 01:01:02,799 like i i mentioned the impermanence 1567 01:01:08,630 --> 01:01:05,040 meditation and that is 1568 01:01:11,030 --> 01:01:08,640 to um focus your mind on like a forest 1569 01:01:14,870 --> 01:01:11,040 and animals in the forest animal gets 1570 01:01:17,670 --> 01:01:14,880 old it falls down it dies it rots 1571 01:01:20,230 --> 01:01:17,680 but that rotting animal you know feeds 1572 01:01:22,870 --> 01:01:20,240 the forest and then plants grow up and 1573 01:01:24,789 --> 01:01:22,880 then those plants die 1574 01:01:27,190 --> 01:01:24,799 and and these cycles 1575 01:01:29,030 --> 01:01:27,200 and so it's it it's weird that it's that 1576 01:01:30,470 --> 01:01:29,040 simple some forms of meditation are that 1577 01:01:33,190 --> 01:01:30,480 simple you think they're going to be 1578 01:01:34,870 --> 01:01:33,200 this incredibly complicated thing 1579 01:01:37,109 --> 01:01:34,880 but 1580 01:01:39,750 --> 01:01:37,119 and and you know to add to this whole 1581 01:01:41,349 --> 01:01:39,760 magical element of you know the practice 1582 01:01:42,309 --> 01:01:41,359 of magic 1583 01:01:44,549 --> 01:01:42,319 um 1584 01:01:46,630 --> 01:01:44,559 what we are taught is that uh every 1585 01:01:48,630 --> 01:01:46,640 thought that you have is like a ripple 1586 01:01:50,069 --> 01:01:48,640 in a pond it's you know the easiest way 1587 01:01:51,910 --> 01:01:50,079 to describe it 1588 01:01:53,990 --> 01:01:51,920 so when your mind is all over the place 1589 01:01:56,870 --> 01:01:54,000 when your mind is not calm 1590 01:01:59,430 --> 01:01:56,880 the waters of your mind is in chaos so 1591 01:02:02,150 --> 01:01:59,440 it's just waves hitting each other 1592 01:02:04,390 --> 01:02:02,160 and when that happens 1593 01:02:07,510 --> 01:02:04,400 your energy flow and your intention is 1594 01:02:09,270 --> 01:02:07,520 lost completely so you you're basically 1595 01:02:10,789 --> 01:02:09,280 um 1596 01:02:12,710 --> 01:02:10,799 incapable 1597 01:02:14,390 --> 01:02:12,720 of putting out a positive or putting out 1598 01:02:16,390 --> 01:02:14,400 a strong intention 1599 01:02:19,510 --> 01:02:16,400 so what they say your mind is in chaos 1600 01:02:21,670 --> 01:02:19,520 right that's right so the whole point is 1601 01:02:24,150 --> 01:02:21,680 getting rid of everything being in this 1602 01:02:25,430 --> 01:02:24,160 completely peaceful state of this no 1603 01:02:26,870 --> 01:02:25,440 mind 1604 01:02:29,670 --> 01:02:26,880 consciousness 1605 01:02:31,670 --> 01:02:29,680 so that when you drop that thought that 1606 01:02:35,029 --> 01:02:31,680 intention into that no mind 1607 01:02:36,069 --> 01:02:35,039 consciousness that is the only thing 1608 01:02:38,069 --> 01:02:36,079 that is 1609 01:02:41,270 --> 01:02:38,079 uh reverberating 1610 01:02:43,430 --> 01:02:41,280 out into the universe for example 1611 01:02:45,349 --> 01:02:43,440 so that is um 1612 01:02:48,069 --> 01:02:45,359 one of the keys 1613 01:02:50,150 --> 01:02:48,079 um for this type of magical thought or 1614 01:02:51,270 --> 01:02:50,160 these magical intentions of healing is 1615 01:02:53,829 --> 01:02:51,280 to kind of 1616 01:02:55,349 --> 01:02:53,839 purify yourself 1617 01:02:57,029 --> 01:02:55,359 of all these things that are pulling you 1618 01:02:59,109 --> 01:02:57,039 in every direction 1619 01:03:01,670 --> 01:02:59,119 and then once you purge yourself of all 1620 01:03:03,589 --> 01:03:01,680 these things that are pulling you 1621 01:03:06,230 --> 01:03:03,599 then what you do is you take all that 1622 01:03:08,549 --> 01:03:06,240 energy that was going out in all these 1623 01:03:11,589 --> 01:03:08,559 directions before you take all that 1624 01:03:13,829 --> 01:03:11,599 energy within you hold it within you 1625 01:03:15,829 --> 01:03:13,839 and then when you place that thought or 1626 01:03:17,910 --> 01:03:15,839 intention you're putting all your energy 1627 01:03:19,990 --> 01:03:17,920 behind that one thing 1628 01:03:21,589 --> 01:03:20,000 and that is 1629 01:03:23,750 --> 01:03:21,599 um 1630 01:03:24,870 --> 01:03:23,760 i think that's what gives it that magic 1631 01:03:27,270 --> 01:03:24,880 gives it that 1632 01:03:29,670 --> 01:03:27,280 power behind it so it's all about 1633 01:03:32,549 --> 01:03:29,680 focusing it's also about focusing your 1634 01:03:34,230 --> 01:03:32,559 will on a given task right like i think 1635 01:03:37,349 --> 01:03:34,240 a lot of this stuff is 1636 01:03:41,029 --> 01:03:37,359 a lot of the prayers rituals meditation 1637 01:03:43,349 --> 01:03:41,039 all that to me is is a form of of uh 1638 01:03:46,150 --> 01:03:43,359 you know a system for focusing the human 1639 01:03:49,029 --> 01:03:46,160 mind and will on a given task i know 1640 01:03:51,750 --> 01:03:49,039 that i sometimes will take 1641 01:03:53,510 --> 01:03:51,760 10 or 15 minutes and just just 1642 01:03:55,190 --> 01:03:53,520 try to get my mind in a good state 1643 01:03:57,349 --> 01:03:55,200 before i have a big project that i have 1644 01:03:59,910 --> 01:03:57,359 to finish or do or you know 1645 01:04:02,150 --> 01:03:59,920 and focus my attention and and 1646 01:04:03,910 --> 01:04:02,160 and also the emotional place i'm a real 1647 01:04:05,029 --> 01:04:03,920 big believer in that like to imagine 1648 01:04:06,710 --> 01:04:05,039 what it's going to feel like to finish 1649 01:04:08,549 --> 01:04:06,720 this huge project 1650 01:04:11,109 --> 01:04:08,559 that especially a project you never 1651 01:04:12,470 --> 01:04:11,119 thought you'd be able to do or whatever 1652 01:04:14,069 --> 01:04:12,480 you just keep going to the emotion of 1653 01:04:16,150 --> 01:04:14,079 what that would feel like 1654 01:04:18,630 --> 01:04:16,160 but it's interesting that a lot of the 1655 01:04:20,150 --> 01:04:18,640 stuff in your book reminded me that of 1656 01:04:22,549 --> 01:04:20,160 some of it's almost reminded me of 1657 01:04:25,829 --> 01:04:22,559 ceremonial magic and things like that 1658 01:04:28,950 --> 01:04:25,839 just a a system of ritual or 1659 01:04:30,950 --> 01:04:28,960 preconceived you know steps to take go 1660 01:04:32,630 --> 01:04:30,960 through these steps to focus your mind 1661 01:04:34,549 --> 01:04:32,640 on whatever it is you're trying to 1662 01:04:36,309 --> 01:04:34,559 accomplish 1663 01:04:38,630 --> 01:04:36,319 yeah you think that they they had some 1664 01:04:42,549 --> 01:04:38,640 insights into 1665 01:04:45,190 --> 01:04:42,559 living better through focused will right 1666 01:04:47,430 --> 01:04:45,200 yeah and like you were talking before um 1667 01:04:50,710 --> 01:04:47,440 even to write this book 1668 01:04:52,950 --> 01:04:50,720 um i had a ritual to write yeah i got to 1669 01:04:54,870 --> 01:04:52,960 tell you i was i wasn't expecting it to 1670 01:04:55,910 --> 01:04:54,880 be this well written i got to tell you 1671 01:04:57,829 --> 01:04:55,920 the truth 1672 01:05:00,309 --> 01:04:57,839 i don't know what i expected but i was i 1673 01:05:01,670 --> 01:05:00,319 was i was proud of you when i got the 1674 01:05:02,950 --> 01:05:01,680 book and i looked through it i started 1675 01:05:04,150 --> 01:05:02,960 reading it i went 1676 01:05:05,829 --> 01:05:04,160 man 1677 01:05:07,430 --> 01:05:05,839 jason really worked really hard on this 1678 01:05:09,270 --> 01:05:07,440 you could just tell you can just tell 1679 01:05:11,349 --> 01:05:09,280 there's like the bibliography's got like 1680 01:05:13,029 --> 01:05:11,359 100 books in it that inspired some of 1681 01:05:16,549 --> 01:05:13,039 this stuff so i know you had to read 1682 01:05:19,750 --> 01:05:16,559 those too and annotate and you know 1683 01:05:21,430 --> 01:05:19,760 take ideas from and yeah i was surprised 1684 01:05:23,990 --> 01:05:21,440 i i'm proud of you i think you did a 1685 01:05:26,789 --> 01:05:24,000 tremendous job with it thank you and 1686 01:05:29,029 --> 01:05:26,799 well researched 1687 01:05:32,309 --> 01:05:29,039 and part of that ritual 1688 01:05:33,430 --> 01:05:32,319 is it had to become my life 1689 01:05:34,470 --> 01:05:33,440 as in 1690 01:05:47,910 --> 01:05:34,480 i 1691 01:05:51,910 --> 01:05:47,920 my computer off exactly at 5 pm every 1692 01:05:56,710 --> 01:05:54,390 right so i managed to write anywhere 1693 01:06:00,950 --> 01:05:56,720 from um 1694 01:06:03,670 --> 01:06:00,960 1500 words to about 3 000 words per day 1695 01:06:05,430 --> 01:06:03,680 and how many pages is that um i would 1696 01:06:07,510 --> 01:06:05,440 say that might be about five to ten 1697 01:06:10,390 --> 01:06:07,520 pages per day 1698 01:06:11,910 --> 01:06:10,400 and um that's what i would i'm i'm just 1699 01:06:13,270 --> 01:06:11,920 curious because i've got a couple of 1700 01:06:15,430 --> 01:06:13,280 book projects that i've really been 1701 01:06:16,710 --> 01:06:15,440 wanting to do but every time i sit down 1702 01:06:18,630 --> 01:06:16,720 and start 1703 01:06:20,950 --> 01:06:18,640 you know it feels like three hours to 1704 01:06:22,549 --> 01:06:20,960 get one page or something and i don't 1705 01:06:24,390 --> 01:06:22,559 feel very motivated 1706 01:06:25,190 --> 01:06:24,400 because i go man this is gonna take me a 1707 01:06:27,109 --> 01:06:25,200 year 1708 01:06:29,349 --> 01:06:27,119 you know but that's the thing is the 1709 01:06:32,230 --> 01:06:29,359 first um i would say the first week or 1710 01:06:34,230 --> 01:06:32,240 so it was hard to get into it like i 1711 01:06:36,950 --> 01:06:34,240 really struggled you know writing those 1712 01:06:38,710 --> 01:06:36,960 pages but then because of the ritual of 1713 01:06:40,630 --> 01:06:38,720 doing it every single day 1714 01:06:42,789 --> 01:06:40,640 and making that my life 1715 01:06:44,710 --> 01:06:42,799 suddenly it's like at night time i would 1716 01:06:47,190 --> 01:06:44,720 get you know people call it downloads 1717 01:06:48,710 --> 01:06:47,200 but it's just my mind going 1718 01:06:50,789 --> 01:06:48,720 oh i want to talk about this so i'll go 1719 01:06:53,190 --> 01:06:50,799 on the cell phone i'll make point form 1720 01:06:55,029 --> 01:06:53,200 notes then i'd wake up and put my cell 1721 01:06:57,510 --> 01:06:55,039 phone here and just 1722 01:07:00,069 --> 01:06:57,520 just write it just all comes out 1723 01:07:01,589 --> 01:07:00,079 and the more you do it suddenly you're 1724 01:07:03,029 --> 01:07:01,599 writing way more than you should and 1725 01:07:05,270 --> 01:07:03,039 you're writing better than you would 1726 01:07:05,990 --> 01:07:05,280 have been a couple weeks ago 1727 01:07:07,510 --> 01:07:06,000 so 1728 01:07:09,109 --> 01:07:07,520 i guess it's like everything it's like 1729 01:07:11,750 --> 01:07:09,119 exercise you've got to exercise the 1730 01:07:13,670 --> 01:07:11,760 muscles before they get you know and 1731 01:07:14,710 --> 01:07:13,680 eventually those muscles get so strong 1732 01:07:18,950 --> 01:07:14,720 that 1733 01:07:20,710 --> 01:07:18,960 couldn't do or are almost simple yeah i 1734 01:07:21,589 --> 01:07:20,720 gotta exercise that writing muscle 1735 01:07:23,349 --> 01:07:21,599 because 1736 01:07:26,069 --> 01:07:23,359 i i don't know 1737 01:07:28,710 --> 01:07:26,079 my my next book i want to write is all 1738 01:07:31,109 --> 01:07:28,720 about uh astral travel 1739 01:07:32,870 --> 01:07:31,119 about the dreams and all these things 1740 01:07:34,390 --> 01:07:32,880 and entities 1741 01:07:36,390 --> 01:07:34,400 but it's like 1742 01:07:37,829 --> 01:07:36,400 i've been saying i'm gonna write it for 1743 01:07:39,349 --> 01:07:37,839 the past couple of months and i haven't 1744 01:07:40,630 --> 01:07:39,359 been able to even i think you've been 1745 01:07:42,470 --> 01:07:40,640 saying it longer than that because i 1746 01:07:44,950 --> 01:07:42,480 remember you tell me about it a year ago 1747 01:07:46,950 --> 01:07:44,960 or something like that or what was that 1748 01:07:49,349 --> 01:07:46,960 it's in it's in the back of my mind 1749 01:07:52,789 --> 01:07:49,359 where it's like damn i need to do it but 1750 01:07:54,710 --> 01:07:52,799 it's like i have to make it my life 1751 01:07:56,390 --> 01:07:54,720 so it's like something has to hit me 1752 01:07:57,829 --> 01:07:56,400 where i have to say okay now i'm going 1753 01:07:59,430 --> 01:07:57,839 to be sitting in front of my computer to 1754 01:08:02,789 --> 01:07:59,440 write this next book and i'm not going 1755 01:08:04,870 --> 01:08:02,799 to leave until it's done which is like 1756 01:08:06,710 --> 01:08:04,880 which is like uh well you could be like 1757 01:08:08,630 --> 01:08:06,720 david wilcock just go broke and then you 1758 01:08:11,670 --> 01:08:08,640 got to finish the book to get the next 1759 01:08:13,589 --> 01:08:11,680 cash grab there you go 1760 01:08:15,029 --> 01:08:13,599 i don't have the audience of david 1761 01:08:17,110 --> 01:08:15,039 wilcox so 1762 01:08:19,669 --> 01:08:17,120 it even if i release the book i'm still 1763 01:08:21,269 --> 01:08:19,679 not i'll still have i don't think david 1764 01:08:23,269 --> 01:08:21,279 i don't think david wilcock has the 1765 01:08:26,070 --> 01:08:23,279 audience of david wilcock based on my 1766 01:08:28,709 --> 01:08:26,080 analysis of his uh youtube numbers 1767 01:08:30,630 --> 01:08:28,719 i really just think it's a lot of bots 1768 01:08:32,550 --> 01:08:30,640 that's my opinion though 1769 01:08:34,709 --> 01:08:32,560 i fake it till you make it i guess right 1770 01:08:36,950 --> 01:08:34,719 you know i it's interesting everybody 1771 01:08:39,030 --> 01:08:36,960 sent me over the weekend 100 people sent 1772 01:08:41,110 --> 01:08:39,040 me an email or message like he's 1773 01:08:43,510 --> 01:08:41,120 streaming you got to cover this this is 1774 01:08:45,110 --> 01:08:43,520 crazy and i go i'm not going to listen 1775 01:08:47,110 --> 01:08:45,120 and then i did 1776 01:08:48,309 --> 01:08:47,120 and now i'm going to cover it because 1777 01:08:50,950 --> 01:08:48,319 you know 1778 01:08:52,550 --> 01:08:50,960 well stephen i don't envy you for having 1779 01:08:53,990 --> 01:08:52,560 to watch that i have to listen to this 1780 01:08:55,269 --> 01:08:54,000 claim i had to listen to this clan for 1781 01:08:57,110 --> 01:08:55,279 three hours 1782 01:08:58,709 --> 01:08:57,120 but i was too lazy to make the notes the 1783 01:09:00,709 --> 01:08:58,719 first run through so now i gotta do it 1784 01:09:01,749 --> 01:09:00,719 again and make the notes and that's 1785 01:09:03,430 --> 01:09:01,759 terrible 1786 01:09:05,430 --> 01:09:03,440 i think i'm gonna call that stream i 1787 01:09:07,669 --> 01:09:05,440 listen to three hours of david wilcox so 1788 01:09:09,269 --> 01:09:07,679 you don't have to 1789 01:09:11,430 --> 01:09:09,279 do you know 1790 01:09:13,269 --> 01:09:11,440 and and just to bring some levity to the 1791 01:09:14,870 --> 01:09:13,279 conversation 1792 01:09:18,309 --> 01:09:14,880 do you know that 1793 01:09:19,990 --> 01:09:18,319 in the future when we're all wiped out 1794 01:09:22,630 --> 01:09:20,000 somebody is going gonna find a box 1795 01:09:24,709 --> 01:09:22,640 buried in the forest 1796 01:09:27,349 --> 01:09:24,719 that was for david wolcott 1797 01:09:29,829 --> 01:09:27,359 oh yes the box of dildos he still hasn't 1798 01:09:32,390 --> 01:09:29,839 failed it 1799 01:09:35,990 --> 01:09:32,400 but i will say this jason i'm not giving 1800 01:09:37,829 --> 01:09:36,000 hints of where it is but he recently i 1801 01:09:39,749 --> 01:09:37,839 guess because of his divorce got rid of 1802 01:09:43,110 --> 01:09:39,759 a few houses that he had 1803 01:09:45,189 --> 01:09:43,120 but he kept the one nearest to the box 1804 01:09:47,430 --> 01:09:45,199 so i'm very happy about that 1805 01:09:49,110 --> 01:09:47,440 oh very interesting and i have no idea 1806 01:09:51,030 --> 01:09:49,120 what that's all about so i just said 1807 01:09:52,390 --> 01:09:51,040 something that just was channeled to me 1808 01:09:53,910 --> 01:09:52,400 i don't know what we're talking about in 1809 01:09:55,669 --> 01:09:53,920 the woods yeah yeah i don't know any of 1810 01:09:56,790 --> 01:09:55,679 that yeah 1811 01:09:58,790 --> 01:09:56,800 yeah so 1812 01:10:01,430 --> 01:09:58,800 i was going to ask you just in general 1813 01:10:03,510 --> 01:10:01,440 too because you took some time off of 1814 01:10:05,990 --> 01:10:03,520 conspiracy land for quite a while i 1815 01:10:07,669 --> 01:10:06,000 guess to focus on the book right but 1816 01:10:10,390 --> 01:10:07,679 really wasn't it just that you needed a 1817 01:10:12,950 --> 01:10:10,400 break from the nonsense and the crazy or 1818 01:10:15,030 --> 01:10:12,960 what was that about um 1819 01:10:16,870 --> 01:10:15,040 it was a lot of things 1820 01:10:19,270 --> 01:10:16,880 but as you know 1821 01:10:20,790 --> 01:10:19,280 this uh community is not 1822 01:10:22,149 --> 01:10:20,800 basically a community you can make a 1823 01:10:23,750 --> 01:10:22,159 living off of 1824 01:10:25,750 --> 01:10:23,760 i know there's there's some 1825 01:10:27,189 --> 01:10:25,760 obviously but 1826 01:10:30,149 --> 01:10:27,199 well you can't if you just lie through 1827 01:10:32,229 --> 01:10:30,159 your teeth and make up [\h__\h] and have 1828 01:10:34,149 --> 01:10:32,239 rapists and murderers and stuff like 1829 01:10:37,030 --> 01:10:34,159 that for your sources 1830 01:10:38,149 --> 01:10:37,040 and just don't mention the rape part you 1831 01:10:40,070 --> 01:10:38,159 know like 1832 01:10:42,950 --> 01:10:40,080 so what if he likes to rape chicks in 1833 01:10:46,709 --> 01:10:42,960 his spare time you know he's he's a 1834 01:10:49,110 --> 01:10:46,719 he saw the aliens let's hear his story 1835 01:10:51,189 --> 01:10:49,120 so the guys that are making money have 1836 01:10:52,630 --> 01:10:51,199 to be willing to have no morals no 1837 01:10:53,830 --> 01:10:52,640 ethics the guys who are really making 1838 01:10:56,950 --> 01:10:53,840 the most money 1839 01:10:59,350 --> 01:10:56,960 in my opinion have no morals no ethics 1840 01:11:02,229 --> 01:10:59,360 we've got people using dead babies no no 1841 01:11:04,470 --> 01:11:02,239 it's it's a comma alien you know we've 1842 01:11:06,310 --> 01:11:04,480 got people using murderers rapists child 1843 01:11:08,950 --> 01:11:06,320 molesters of sources 1844 01:11:11,110 --> 01:11:08,960 people selling all kinds of dubious 1845 01:11:12,550 --> 01:11:11,120 fake medical cures and devices that 1846 01:11:15,270 --> 01:11:12,560 don't do anything 1847 01:11:16,790 --> 01:11:15,280 it's really disheartening right 1848 01:11:19,590 --> 01:11:16,800 yeah and that's also one of the reasons 1849 01:11:21,189 --> 01:11:19,600 why i kind of backed out but 1850 01:11:22,790 --> 01:11:21,199 as you know 1851 01:11:23,830 --> 01:11:22,800 almost the entire time i was in this 1852 01:11:26,790 --> 01:11:23,840 community 1853 01:11:28,390 --> 01:11:26,800 i needed an actual job 1854 01:11:29,430 --> 01:11:28,400 you know to support myself to be in this 1855 01:11:31,830 --> 01:11:29,440 community 1856 01:11:32,790 --> 01:11:31,840 so i worked very hard in my other job 1857 01:11:34,870 --> 01:11:32,800 and then 1858 01:11:37,110 --> 01:11:34,880 you know to the writing and the podcast 1859 01:11:38,149 --> 01:11:37,120 and all that was basically the side 1860 01:11:42,070 --> 01:11:38,159 business 1861 01:11:43,350 --> 01:11:42,080 which helped support me um and the the 1862 01:11:44,950 --> 01:11:43,360 community 1863 01:11:47,910 --> 01:11:44,960 was getting really 1864 01:11:51,270 --> 01:11:47,920 intense around um coming up to the end 1865 01:11:52,830 --> 01:11:51,280 of the uh the trump administration oh 1866 01:11:56,790 --> 01:11:52,840 yeah they all went 1867 01:11:58,790 --> 01:11:56,800 nuts and it was very um 1868 01:12:00,870 --> 01:11:58,800 it was just too much conspiracy and 1869 01:12:03,189 --> 01:12:00,880 everybody was very angry at each other 1870 01:12:04,550 --> 01:12:03,199 and everybody was very polarized and it 1871 01:12:06,390 --> 01:12:04,560 didn't matter what i would say i'd 1872 01:12:07,350 --> 01:12:06,400 always be attacked by one side or the 1873 01:12:10,709 --> 01:12:07,360 other 1874 01:12:13,270 --> 01:12:10,719 and i had this career i was in 1875 01:12:16,790 --> 01:12:13,280 which i'm no longer in but at the time i 1876 01:12:17,990 --> 01:12:16,800 was really trying to be 1877 01:12:21,030 --> 01:12:18,000 really 1878 01:12:22,550 --> 01:12:21,040 you know work hard in this career this 1879 01:12:24,070 --> 01:12:22,560 that was not part of the community at 1880 01:12:25,910 --> 01:12:24,080 all i was really trying to get this 1881 01:12:28,229 --> 01:12:25,920 career going 1882 01:12:30,470 --> 01:12:28,239 and i was like why am i 1883 01:12:32,630 --> 01:12:30,480 fighting with people online online that 1884 01:12:34,310 --> 01:12:32,640 i'll never win these arguments 1885 01:12:35,750 --> 01:12:34,320 you know why am i doing all this and 1886 01:12:38,709 --> 01:12:35,760 it's just taking my time when i could be 1887 01:12:40,149 --> 01:12:38,719 focusing on the real world 1888 01:12:41,189 --> 01:12:40,159 and then i just made a decision where 1889 01:12:42,790 --> 01:12:41,199 it's like 1890 01:12:44,950 --> 01:12:42,800 i'm just going to take my energy and 1891 01:12:46,550 --> 01:12:44,960 focus it on the real world and get this 1892 01:12:47,669 --> 01:12:46,560 stuff going 1893 01:12:51,830 --> 01:12:47,679 and 1894 01:12:55,110 --> 01:12:51,840 ontario 1895 01:12:56,950 --> 01:12:55,120 it's very much like um 1896 01:12:58,790 --> 01:12:56,960 basically i'm a prisoner trapped in 1897 01:13:00,550 --> 01:12:58,800 canada and i know people say oh you got 1898 01:13:01,750 --> 01:13:00,560 freedoms you could leave and go but not 1899 01:13:03,510 --> 01:13:01,760 really 1900 01:13:04,390 --> 01:13:03,520 and it's just it's just a hassle and a 1901 01:13:05,750 --> 01:13:04,400 half 1902 01:13:07,910 --> 01:13:05,760 so for the past 1903 01:13:10,950 --> 01:13:07,920 trying to travel was like impossible or 1904 01:13:12,709 --> 01:13:10,960 was for a while there right yes so it's 1905 01:13:15,030 --> 01:13:12,719 very difficult so basically i've stayed 1906 01:13:18,630 --> 01:13:15,040 home and worked from home for the past 1907 01:13:19,990 --> 01:13:18,640 two years and unfortunately uh last june 1908 01:13:21,189 --> 01:13:20,000 my job 1909 01:13:23,270 --> 01:13:21,199 ended 1910 01:13:24,870 --> 01:13:23,280 so since june i've been completely 1911 01:13:26,470 --> 01:13:24,880 unemployed 1912 01:13:28,470 --> 01:13:26,480 and i kind of 1913 01:13:30,470 --> 01:13:28,480 uh imploded my 1914 01:13:31,910 --> 01:13:30,480 business on this side like i imploded 1915 01:13:33,830 --> 01:13:31,920 the crystal business and the book 1916 01:13:36,550 --> 01:13:33,840 business just so i could focus over 1917 01:13:38,229 --> 01:13:36,560 there and then i lost that job 1918 01:13:40,229 --> 01:13:38,239 so then it's like okay now i have the 1919 01:13:42,149 --> 01:13:40,239 opportunity and time to sit here 1920 01:13:44,470 --> 01:13:42,159 make no money 1921 01:13:46,310 --> 01:13:44,480 and just write my book but at least 1922 01:13:47,910 --> 01:13:46,320 enjoy your time a little more right dude 1923 01:13:51,030 --> 01:13:47,920 don't you enjoy your time doing this 1924 01:13:53,910 --> 01:13:51,040 craziness more than 1925 01:13:56,470 --> 01:13:53,920 yeah i mean to tell you the truth i love 1926 01:13:58,630 --> 01:13:56,480 writing it's like it's an actual passion 1927 01:14:00,070 --> 01:13:58,640 of mine to write and i think i spoke to 1928 01:14:00,870 --> 01:14:00,080 you when i was writing the book i'm like 1929 01:14:02,870 --> 01:14:00,880 man 1930 01:14:05,110 --> 01:14:02,880 i'm having the best time doing this yeah 1931 01:14:07,510 --> 01:14:05,120 you did i remember and it made me pull 1932 01:14:09,270 --> 01:14:07,520 out my word processor three times but 1933 01:14:11,750 --> 01:14:09,280 and i didn't get very far 1934 01:14:14,790 --> 01:14:11,760 yeah i think i had to hire jason to just 1935 01:14:17,030 --> 01:14:14,800 just ghostwrite my book since he's 1936 01:14:18,390 --> 01:14:17,040 obviously better at it than i would be 1937 01:14:21,030 --> 01:14:18,400 i'll tell you 1938 01:14:23,189 --> 01:14:21,040 one thing that my job taught me in the 1939 01:14:25,189 --> 01:14:23,199 real world was 1940 01:14:27,030 --> 01:14:25,199 take your time 1941 01:14:28,950 --> 01:14:27,040 and don't put out anything that you're 1942 01:14:31,270 --> 01:14:28,960 going to want to pull back 1943 01:14:32,070 --> 01:14:31,280 you know a couple months later 1944 01:14:34,390 --> 01:14:32,080 so 1945 01:14:36,229 --> 01:14:34,400 i really like you said i i really put 1946 01:14:37,590 --> 01:14:36,239 the time and energy into writing this 1947 01:14:40,070 --> 01:14:37,600 book i 1948 01:14:42,790 --> 01:14:40,080 some of the these graphics like remember 1949 01:14:44,390 --> 01:14:42,800 i don't take pictures so it's like for 1950 01:14:45,750 --> 01:14:44,400 example like you see the graphics in the 1951 01:14:48,310 --> 01:14:45,760 book 1952 01:14:50,070 --> 01:14:48,320 okay i'll solo you how so will you there 1953 01:14:52,390 --> 01:14:50,080 you go um 1954 01:14:53,830 --> 01:14:52,400 basically every single picture that you 1955 01:14:57,189 --> 01:14:53,840 see 1956 01:14:58,709 --> 01:14:57,199 i had to i redrew this on illustrator 1957 01:15:01,189 --> 01:14:58,719 and photoshop 1958 01:15:03,030 --> 01:15:01,199 wow yeah so you're not ripping off 1959 01:15:04,790 --> 01:15:03,040 you're going to know there's there's 1960 01:15:06,950 --> 01:15:04,800 it's funny somebody in conspiracy land 1961 01:15:09,590 --> 01:15:06,960 totally ripped off somebody else's book 1962 01:15:10,870 --> 01:15:09,600 cover it wasn't that you showed 1963 01:15:14,870 --> 01:15:10,880 there's like one 1964 01:15:16,790 --> 01:15:14,880 three different books people just copied 1965 01:15:18,470 --> 01:15:16,800 and pasted somebody else's book cover 1966 01:15:20,070 --> 01:15:18,480 illustration onto their own book it's 1967 01:15:21,750 --> 01:15:20,080 great they they love it it's nice that 1968 01:15:23,110 --> 01:15:21,760 you were more original it's nice that 1969 01:15:24,790 --> 01:15:23,120 you were more original though i 1970 01:15:27,189 --> 01:15:24,800 appreciate that kind of attention to 1971 01:15:29,750 --> 01:15:27,199 detail and my friend 1972 01:15:31,270 --> 01:15:29,760 who's a musician his name is uh monopoly 1973 01:15:33,669 --> 01:15:31,280 i don't know if you know him 1974 01:15:36,470 --> 01:15:33,679 but he's also like a graphic designer 1975 01:15:39,510 --> 01:15:36,480 and i said can you please help me 1976 01:15:41,030 --> 01:15:39,520 um and he did 3d rendering of the 1977 01:15:42,870 --> 01:15:41,040 statues 1978 01:15:44,470 --> 01:15:42,880 yeah that's cool i assumed that you had 1979 01:15:46,070 --> 01:15:44,480 some guy that was doing all that 1980 01:15:47,350 --> 01:15:46,080 somebody did all the artwork for you i 1981 01:15:49,669 --> 01:15:47,360 didn't know that you were involved in 1982 01:15:52,310 --> 01:15:49,679 that too yeah no i did everything the 1983 01:15:54,390 --> 01:15:52,320 cover i made the cover from scratch 1984 01:15:57,110 --> 01:15:54,400 everything is is mine so it's like i i 1985 01:15:59,910 --> 01:15:57,120 really took the time and energy to make 1986 01:16:03,030 --> 01:15:59,920 it a project that i'm proud of 1987 01:16:06,229 --> 01:16:04,229 that's what i'm doing from now on are 1988 01:16:07,910 --> 01:16:06,239 you going to be on jean-claude show is 1989 01:16:09,830 --> 01:16:07,920 that john 1990 01:16:11,510 --> 01:16:09,840 i haven't talked to him in a long time 1991 01:16:13,990 --> 01:16:11,520 he got pissed off at me tell him i said 1992 01:16:16,070 --> 01:16:14,000 hello i will the interesting thing about 1993 01:16:17,110 --> 01:16:16,080 jean-claude is i've known that guy for 1994 01:16:21,189 --> 01:16:17,120 years 1995 01:16:22,870 --> 01:16:21,199 knew he had a show 1996 01:16:24,950 --> 01:16:22,880 you know what's you know what's crazy is 1997 01:16:27,430 --> 01:16:24,960 that he's been deleted off of youtube 1998 01:16:29,430 --> 01:16:27,440 like four times and every time he gets 1999 01:16:31,990 --> 01:16:29,440 deleted he comes back with more 2000 01:16:33,350 --> 01:16:32,000 subscribers than he had the first he's 2001 01:16:35,990 --> 01:16:33,360 i don't even know i haven't looked 2002 01:16:36,950 --> 01:16:36,000 checked in but he's got a huge following 2003 01:16:40,950 --> 01:16:36,960 though 2004 01:16:44,149 --> 01:16:40,960 yes so tomorrow i well yeah coming on 2005 01:16:45,430 --> 01:16:44,159 your show is just me practicing to be on 2006 01:16:48,709 --> 01:16:45,440 his show 2007 01:16:51,910 --> 01:16:48,719 oh okay yeah he's got 70 000 subscribers 2008 01:16:53,910 --> 01:16:51,920 now that's crazy i don't know and we and 2009 01:16:55,830 --> 01:16:53,920 and he started his first 2010 01:16:57,189 --> 01:16:55,840 channel about the same time i started 2011 01:16:59,669 --> 01:16:57,199 this channel 2012 01:17:03,590 --> 01:17:01,830 no i need more crazy psychic [\h__\h] and 2013 01:17:05,430 --> 01:17:03,600 we had a fight about this he gets all 2014 01:17:07,270 --> 01:17:05,440 the crazy psychic [\h__\h] and the hot 2015 01:17:10,070 --> 01:17:07,280 psychic chicks and i don't get any of 2016 01:17:11,350 --> 01:17:10,080 them and that's not fair right well 2017 01:17:13,830 --> 01:17:11,360 that's what i need 2018 01:17:16,630 --> 01:17:13,840 any more hot psychic chicks 2019 01:17:18,390 --> 01:17:16,640 yeah but you try to debunk them all i 2020 01:17:20,870 --> 01:17:18,400 know that's what that's that's why i'm 2021 01:17:23,669 --> 01:17:20,880 at 5 000 subscribers i'm going to change 2022 01:17:27,990 --> 01:17:25,910 so i'll start doing right 2023 01:17:29,270 --> 01:17:28,000 yes yes so 2024 01:17:31,910 --> 01:17:29,280 um 2025 01:17:34,070 --> 01:17:31,920 going back to it you know i just what i 2026 01:17:37,189 --> 01:17:34,080 really wanted to do with this book was 2027 01:17:39,270 --> 01:17:37,199 trying to find the original source 2028 01:17:40,310 --> 01:17:39,280 of you know where all these ideas came 2029 01:17:42,550 --> 01:17:40,320 from 2030 01:17:44,229 --> 01:17:42,560 and how they kind of got uh placed in 2031 01:17:46,550 --> 01:17:44,239 different religions around the world and 2032 01:17:48,630 --> 01:17:46,560 how we view them today 2033 01:17:49,830 --> 01:17:48,640 but they really haven't changed if you 2034 01:17:52,229 --> 01:17:49,840 really 2035 01:17:54,229 --> 01:17:52,239 yeah it's interesting go back in time 2036 01:17:56,310 --> 01:17:54,239 and you see it's all basically the same 2037 01:17:57,910 --> 01:17:56,320 stuff and i think it gets lost in 2038 01:17:59,830 --> 01:17:57,920 translation once you start getting into 2039 01:18:01,590 --> 01:17:59,840 like the gods and goddesses or the 2040 01:18:04,229 --> 01:18:01,600 different 2041 01:18:05,750 --> 01:18:04,239 rituals but when you start to just 2042 01:18:07,510 --> 01:18:05,760 go from culture to culture they just 2043 01:18:09,910 --> 01:18:07,520 change the names of the deities but it's 2044 01:18:11,189 --> 01:18:09,920 the same exact rituals or the same exact 2045 01:18:12,950 --> 01:18:11,199 knowledge 2046 01:18:15,430 --> 01:18:12,960 um and i think yeah it's just different 2047 01:18:19,590 --> 01:18:15,440 packaging right yes 2048 01:18:24,550 --> 01:18:23,030 for me it just it helped me kind of 2049 01:18:26,470 --> 01:18:24,560 um 2050 01:18:29,189 --> 01:18:26,480 be a little more grounded 2051 01:18:31,830 --> 01:18:29,199 in knowing that our ancestors had the 2052 01:18:33,910 --> 01:18:31,840 same issues had the same problems had 2053 01:18:35,910 --> 01:18:33,920 the same thoughts and ideas 2054 01:18:38,630 --> 01:18:35,920 as we have today it may be a different 2055 01:18:41,270 --> 01:18:38,640 situation but they're still coping and 2056 01:18:43,669 --> 01:18:41,280 dealing with the same things that we're 2057 01:18:46,070 --> 01:18:43,679 dealing with today 2058 01:18:47,910 --> 01:18:46,080 so it is really humbling to see you know 2059 01:18:49,830 --> 01:18:47,920 where these ideas 2060 01:18:51,669 --> 01:18:49,840 came from and how we can use these ideas 2061 01:18:54,070 --> 01:18:51,679 to better our lives today 2062 01:18:55,990 --> 01:18:54,080 if we kind of cut out the noise of 2063 01:18:59,110 --> 01:18:56,000 modern day uh 2064 01:19:01,189 --> 01:18:59,120 thought and culture and things like that 2065 01:19:03,030 --> 01:19:01,199 yeah you know me i'm real big on that i 2066 01:19:06,310 --> 01:19:03,040 wish that i could live with that cabin 2067 01:19:07,830 --> 01:19:06,320 24 7 and uh you know it taught me that 2068 01:19:10,390 --> 01:19:07,840 eventually we might get out of this 2069 01:19:11,910 --> 01:19:10,400 house and get some place a little bit 2070 01:19:15,110 --> 01:19:11,920 further down the road a little more 2071 01:19:18,470 --> 01:19:15,120 rural a little more woodsy or you know 2072 01:19:20,550 --> 01:19:18,480 because i just feel best there i feel 2073 01:19:22,390 --> 01:19:20,560 most at peace i feel like you know 2074 01:19:23,590 --> 01:19:22,400 that's my happy place i just got there 2075 01:19:28,310 --> 01:19:23,600 last week 2076 01:19:30,630 --> 01:19:28,320 thought my life is better at the cabin 2077 01:19:33,110 --> 01:19:30,640 don't tell my wife 2078 01:19:36,070 --> 01:19:33,120 no she gave me this actually 2079 01:19:38,390 --> 01:19:36,080 and i i i do want to come back and we 2080 01:19:41,430 --> 01:19:38,400 can talk about um entities because i 2081 01:19:42,870 --> 01:19:41,440 know that you're very into the whole uh 2082 01:19:45,669 --> 01:19:42,880 catholic 2083 01:19:47,669 --> 01:19:45,679 um and and the bible version of demons 2084 01:19:49,030 --> 01:19:47,679 and entities and things like that well 2085 01:19:50,550 --> 01:19:49,040 that's what i'm most comfortable well 2086 01:19:52,630 --> 01:19:50,560 that's what i'm most familiar with 2087 01:19:55,110 --> 01:19:52,640 because i had 12 years of that uh 2088 01:19:56,709 --> 01:19:55,120 education and uh i was sort of 2089 01:19:58,229 --> 01:19:56,719 fast-tracked believe it or not i was 2090 01:20:00,790 --> 01:19:58,239 going to be a priest 2091 01:20:02,870 --> 01:20:00,800 so they put me in extra theology classes 2092 01:20:05,669 --> 01:20:02,880 and scripture study stuff and that was 2093 01:20:07,750 --> 01:20:05,679 interesting to you know 2094 01:20:09,910 --> 01:20:07,760 and um yeah 2095 01:20:11,830 --> 01:20:09,920 so even like uh you know when they do 2096 01:20:13,430 --> 01:20:11,840 the sign of the cross they're using a 2097 01:20:15,830 --> 01:20:13,440 mudra 2098 01:20:18,149 --> 01:20:15,840 oh that is that is a hand sign yeah yeah 2099 01:20:20,149 --> 01:20:18,159 and they're they're you know that sign 2100 01:20:21,430 --> 01:20:20,159 has been around 2101 01:20:23,030 --> 01:20:21,440 for thousands of years before 2102 01:20:25,030 --> 01:20:23,040 christianity and it was used for the 2103 01:20:27,030 --> 01:20:25,040 exact same thing 2104 01:20:29,590 --> 01:20:27,040 so you know it's just another thing of 2105 01:20:32,070 --> 01:20:29,600 connecting the dots 2106 01:20:33,430 --> 01:20:32,080 yeah yeah yeah i think you're right well 2107 01:20:35,510 --> 01:20:33,440 i you know i don't want to keep you too 2108 01:20:36,790 --> 01:20:35,520 long we can call this a shorter one 2109 01:20:38,310 --> 01:20:36,800 unless you have other things that you 2110 01:20:42,149 --> 01:20:38,320 want to talk about i'm about to add 2111 01:20:43,750 --> 01:20:42,159 questions probably because i still have 2112 01:20:46,629 --> 01:20:43,760 let me see 2113 01:20:50,149 --> 01:20:46,639 i didn't do all my homework jason i have 2114 01:20:52,310 --> 01:20:50,159 uh i'm on 299. i oh i only have like 20 2115 01:20:54,310 --> 01:20:52,320 pages left to read 2116 01:20:56,709 --> 01:20:54,320 no you did it no not that 2117 01:20:59,030 --> 01:20:56,719 close enough i'm gonna i'm gonna try 2118 01:21:01,270 --> 01:20:59,040 some of these meditations but to be 2119 01:21:03,270 --> 01:21:01,280 honest i have a hard enough time keeping 2120 01:21:04,070 --> 01:21:03,280 up with the ones i already know 2121 01:21:06,149 --> 01:21:04,080 or 2122 01:21:07,590 --> 01:21:06,159 finding the time to do them every once 2123 01:21:10,390 --> 01:21:07,600 in a while i say no i've got to double 2124 01:21:12,629 --> 01:21:10,400 down on this because it's so beneficial 2125 01:21:15,669 --> 01:21:12,639 and learned some new techniques too so 2126 01:21:18,950 --> 01:21:15,679 but here's a a book of uh 2127 01:21:20,149 --> 01:21:18,960 egyptian postures of power jason quits 2128 01:21:22,709 --> 01:21:20,159 newest book 2129 01:21:26,830 --> 01:21:22,719 and uh i recommend it and if you 2130 01:21:33,750 --> 01:21:31,110 rituals religious history meditation 2131 01:21:35,750 --> 01:21:33,760 ancient mysteries it's all in there 2132 01:21:38,070 --> 01:21:35,760 right this is a good mix of that kind of 2133 01:21:40,629 --> 01:21:38,080 stuff 2134 01:21:43,189 --> 01:21:40,639 thank you thank you and i wasn't i 2135 01:21:44,390 --> 01:21:43,199 couldn't see any of the chats in youtube 2136 01:21:45,990 --> 01:21:44,400 or anything so i don't know if there's 2137 01:21:47,910 --> 01:21:46,000 any questions or anything oh if anybody 2138 01:21:50,229 --> 01:21:47,920 wanna yeah we'll do a few more minutes 2139 01:21:52,550 --> 01:21:50,239 if anybody has any questions for jason 2140 01:21:54,709 --> 01:21:52,560 about his new book or anything else 2141 01:21:58,470 --> 01:21:54,719 about his hot wife you know just put him 2142 01:22:01,669 --> 01:21:59,350 she says 2143 01:22:03,510 --> 01:22:01,679 hi by the way every time i make a 2144 01:22:05,750 --> 01:22:03,520 comment like that people lose their 2145 01:22:08,629 --> 01:22:05,760 goddamn minds but we're friends and i he 2146 01:22:09,830 --> 01:22:08,639 knows i'm only joking and so does she 2147 01:22:11,830 --> 01:22:09,840 well 2148 01:22:13,510 --> 01:22:11,840 i do like dropping those comments that 2149 01:22:16,149 --> 01:22:13,520 piss everybody off like hey jason you 2150 01:22:20,709 --> 01:22:16,159 know what i really love your wife 2151 01:22:25,189 --> 01:22:22,790 well i just think one of these things is 2152 01:22:27,830 --> 01:22:25,199 not like the other i'm fascinated by his 2153 01:22:28,790 --> 01:22:27,840 wife because i go look at her 2154 01:22:30,629 --> 01:22:28,800 and 2155 01:22:32,950 --> 01:22:30,639 the jason like 2156 01:22:34,550 --> 01:22:32,960 i'm confused too i don't know jason must 2157 01:22:35,990 --> 01:22:34,560 be hung like a horse that's the only 2158 01:22:37,590 --> 01:22:36,000 thing that i've come up with the only 2159 01:22:39,350 --> 01:22:37,600 reason that i can come up with that he 2160 01:22:41,830 --> 01:22:39,360 got a girl that hot 2161 01:22:43,669 --> 01:22:41,840 sound like a horse friend this this is 2162 01:22:47,669 --> 01:22:43,679 how the show just went 2163 01:22:52,470 --> 01:22:49,430 all right any questions for jason please 2164 01:22:54,629 --> 01:22:52,480 put them in all capital letters uh 2165 01:22:56,070 --> 01:22:54,639 it's it really does help 2166 01:22:58,310 --> 01:22:56,080 if you have questions oh here's a 2167 01:23:00,550 --> 01:22:58,320 question from stephanie jackson question 2168 01:23:02,229 --> 01:23:00,560 for jason quinn hi jason awakening man 2169 01:23:04,229 --> 01:23:02,239 eric is one of my friends can you share 2170 01:23:05,189 --> 01:23:04,239 the story when you guys saw ufos 2171 01:23:06,390 --> 01:23:05,199 together 2172 01:23:07,189 --> 01:23:06,400 thanks 2173 01:23:08,790 --> 01:23:07,199 man 2174 01:23:10,149 --> 01:23:08,800 i'm just trying to think of which which 2175 01:23:12,629 --> 01:23:10,159 story 2176 01:23:13,990 --> 01:23:12,639 yeah because that dude sees ufos 2177 01:23:15,990 --> 01:23:14,000 everywhere so 2178 01:23:18,149 --> 01:23:16,000 you gotta nail it down the thing with 2179 01:23:21,189 --> 01:23:18,159 eric is that it doesn't matter what 2180 01:23:21,800 --> 01:23:21,199 conference i go to in the united states 2181 01:23:23,910 --> 01:23:21,810 he's there 2182 01:23:26,709 --> 01:23:23,920 [Laughter] 2183 01:23:28,390 --> 01:23:26,719 he's there but uh one of them you know 2184 01:23:30,310 --> 01:23:28,400 what you know what cw chandra said and 2185 01:23:32,709 --> 01:23:30,320 he's absolutely right if there's if 2186 01:23:36,229 --> 01:23:32,719 there's like a ufo 2187 01:23:39,910 --> 01:23:36,239 like lecture at a small town library in 2188 01:23:41,990 --> 01:23:39,920 like prairietown minnesota eric is there 2189 01:23:44,390 --> 01:23:42,000 if three guys decide to get together and 2190 01:23:46,790 --> 01:23:44,400 talk about ufos at a denny's in the 2191 01:23:48,470 --> 01:23:46,800 middle of wisconsin somehow eric the 2192 01:23:50,149 --> 01:23:48,480 awakening man is there 2193 01:23:52,629 --> 01:23:50,159 i don't know how he does it he really 2194 01:23:55,750 --> 01:23:52,639 somebody sees bigfoot he's there 2195 01:23:59,189 --> 01:23:55,760 there's a flap of ufo sightings in you 2196 01:24:01,830 --> 01:23:59,199 know montana somehow he's there 2197 01:24:03,189 --> 01:24:01,840 um we were together at uh east seti 2198 01:24:05,750 --> 01:24:03,199 ranch 2199 01:24:07,030 --> 01:24:05,760 oh i just did a show on that i i know 2200 01:24:09,110 --> 01:24:07,040 and uh 2201 01:24:12,629 --> 01:24:09,120 e city ranch is very interesting i would 2202 01:24:13,830 --> 01:24:12,639 say mount adams is very interesting 2203 01:24:16,229 --> 01:24:13,840 and we had 2204 01:24:19,189 --> 01:24:16,239 a lot of sightings there that weren't 2205 01:24:20,870 --> 01:24:19,199 planes that weren't satellites 2206 01:24:22,470 --> 01:24:20,880 i don't know what they were i don't know 2207 01:24:24,790 --> 01:24:22,480 if they were 2208 01:24:26,229 --> 01:24:24,800 ufos or some other type of phenomenon 2209 01:24:28,470 --> 01:24:26,239 like 2210 01:24:31,510 --> 01:24:28,480 the lights on the mountain 2211 01:24:33,830 --> 01:24:31,520 they seem to kind of like um 2212 01:24:35,830 --> 01:24:33,840 kind of like come in and go out like a 2213 01:24:37,910 --> 01:24:35,840 ball lightning type of thing 2214 01:24:41,830 --> 01:24:37,920 but we witnessed a lot of that 2215 01:24:44,470 --> 01:24:41,840 at that mountain and um in where was it 2216 01:24:47,350 --> 01:24:44,480 palm springs out in the desert we went 2217 01:24:49,990 --> 01:24:47,360 on a hike in the forest 2218 01:24:52,790 --> 01:24:50,000 and that was really cool 2219 01:24:54,070 --> 01:24:52,800 and i um monica was there and she took a 2220 01:24:59,430 --> 01:24:54,080 picture 2221 01:25:00,790 --> 01:24:59,440 which was like a cylinder in the sky 2222 01:25:03,430 --> 01:25:00,800 uh which i thought 2223 01:25:04,790 --> 01:25:03,440 ufo those are interesting yeah so i 2224 01:25:06,709 --> 01:25:04,800 didn't take that picture she took that 2225 01:25:08,709 --> 01:25:06,719 picture i didn't see it with my eyes but 2226 01:25:10,229 --> 01:25:08,719 it came out in the photo 2227 01:25:11,350 --> 01:25:10,239 um 2228 01:25:13,750 --> 01:25:11,360 but yeah there's there's a lot of 2229 01:25:15,750 --> 01:25:13,760 phenomenon out there i don't necessarily 2230 01:25:17,350 --> 01:25:15,760 believe that it's a it's a well i mean 2231 01:25:19,590 --> 01:25:17,360 by definition at the ufo because you 2232 01:25:21,030 --> 01:25:19,600 have no idea what you're looking at 2233 01:25:22,629 --> 01:25:21,040 but um 2234 01:25:26,149 --> 01:25:22,639 i have um 2235 01:25:28,310 --> 01:25:26,159 i have a i have a theory of um the 2236 01:25:30,310 --> 01:25:28,320 mountain is like kind of 2237 01:25:32,229 --> 01:25:30,320 the receptacle of 2238 01:25:33,669 --> 01:25:32,239 energy of the atmosphere 2239 01:25:36,070 --> 01:25:33,679 and then when the sun goes down the 2240 01:25:37,990 --> 01:25:36,080 atmosphere actually compresses 2241 01:25:40,870 --> 01:25:38,000 uh down on that mountain and as it 2242 01:25:42,870 --> 01:25:40,880 compresses the ions hit that mountain 2243 01:25:45,669 --> 01:25:42,880 and you'll see things light up like a 2244 01:25:48,149 --> 01:25:45,679 christmas tree on that album 2245 01:25:50,550 --> 01:25:48,159 yeah i've heard you know i've heard both 2246 01:25:52,550 --> 01:25:50,560 sides of that story i've heard people 2247 01:25:55,030 --> 01:25:52,560 that 2248 01:25:56,950 --> 01:25:55,040 maybe there is something to a strange 2249 01:25:58,870 --> 01:25:56,960 phenomenon in that area but then i've 2250 01:26:00,550 --> 01:25:58,880 heard a whole lot of stories that seem 2251 01:26:03,270 --> 01:26:00,560 to indicate that some people may be 2252 01:26:05,750 --> 01:26:03,280 taking advantage of uh satellites and 2253 01:26:08,629 --> 01:26:05,760 other things because you know 2254 01:26:10,709 --> 01:26:08,639 well i'll just tell you um like 2255 01:26:12,790 --> 01:26:10,719 you know i live out in canada you live 2256 01:26:14,149 --> 01:26:12,800 where you live if we go outside and look 2257 01:26:15,990 --> 01:26:14,159 up at the sky long enough we're going to 2258 01:26:17,990 --> 01:26:16,000 see things moving around because there's 2259 01:26:19,350 --> 01:26:18,000 also thousands of different satellites 2260 01:26:20,229 --> 01:26:19,360 going around and there could be other 2261 01:26:21,750 --> 01:26:20,239 things 2262 01:26:24,709 --> 01:26:21,760 those starlink satellites are going to 2263 01:26:27,189 --> 01:26:24,719 cause tons of ufo sightings i guarantee 2264 01:26:29,350 --> 01:26:27,199 it the the thing that that 2265 01:26:32,629 --> 01:26:29,360 bothers me about these type of meetings 2266 01:26:35,189 --> 01:26:32,639 or these ce5 events is that um you'll 2267 01:26:36,870 --> 01:26:35,199 see something in the sky 2268 01:26:38,229 --> 01:26:36,880 we don't know what it is 2269 01:26:39,910 --> 01:26:38,239 but you'll have people in the group 2270 01:26:42,709 --> 01:26:39,920 telling you what it is 2271 01:26:44,390 --> 01:26:42,719 so then people will say okay i saw this 2272 01:26:46,390 --> 01:26:44,400 and they described it as this so 2273 01:26:48,229 --> 01:26:46,400 therefore that's what it is 2274 01:26:51,189 --> 01:26:48,239 yeah it's a mother ship look it's 2275 01:26:54,229 --> 01:26:51,199 powering up i've heard that direct quote 2276 01:26:56,070 --> 01:26:54,239 right from gilead right so that's the 2277 01:26:58,550 --> 01:26:56,080 only issue that i have with that is kind 2278 01:27:01,110 --> 01:26:58,560 of trying to put a description on what 2279 01:27:03,669 --> 01:27:01,120 it is to tell people this is what it is 2280 01:27:06,149 --> 01:27:03,679 when we actually don't know what it is 2281 01:27:07,510 --> 01:27:06,159 and that's my only major yeah there well 2282 01:27:11,270 --> 01:27:07,520 we'll end with this question because 2283 01:27:14,870 --> 01:27:11,280 it's a good one actually uh mario's taco 2284 01:27:17,030 --> 01:27:14,880 taco says uh what he thinks uh about 2285 01:27:20,229 --> 01:27:17,040 meditation and ufos is there any 2286 01:27:24,870 --> 01:27:22,390 many people believe 2287 01:27:27,830 --> 01:27:24,880 there is some type of connection and i 2288 01:27:30,070 --> 01:27:27,840 would say that it completely opens up 2289 01:27:32,070 --> 01:27:30,080 the ufo field into something completely 2290 01:27:34,149 --> 01:27:32,080 different which is ufos are connected to 2291 01:27:35,430 --> 01:27:34,159 consciousness 2292 01:27:36,709 --> 01:27:35,440 and 2293 01:27:39,430 --> 01:27:36,719 um 2294 01:27:41,910 --> 01:27:39,440 you know i've had some weird experiences 2295 01:27:44,790 --> 01:27:41,920 and they're just weird like i i'm 2296 01:27:46,870 --> 01:27:44,800 monitoring he's definitely a weirdo so 2297 01:27:48,390 --> 01:27:46,880 monica and i are walking like we walk 2298 01:27:50,950 --> 01:27:48,400 around our neighborhood a lot especially 2299 01:27:51,910 --> 01:27:50,960 in the summer time to get some exercise 2300 01:27:53,910 --> 01:27:51,920 and 2301 01:27:56,149 --> 01:27:53,920 uh we were actually discussing this 2302 01:27:59,990 --> 01:27:56,159 whole idea of power-ups like like you 2303 01:28:02,629 --> 01:28:00,000 said like the ufo powers up 2304 01:28:04,390 --> 01:28:02,639 and i said i'm like it doesn't make any 2305 01:28:05,990 --> 01:28:04,400 sense it's like why would they need why 2306 01:28:08,070 --> 01:28:06,000 would they need to power up do they need 2307 01:28:10,390 --> 01:28:08,080 to just show us that they're they're 2308 01:28:12,229 --> 01:28:10,400 connected to us consciously and when i 2309 01:28:13,990 --> 01:28:12,239 said that to monica suddenly it's like 2310 01:28:15,590 --> 01:28:14,000 there was this big flash in front of us 2311 01:28:17,910 --> 01:28:15,600 in the sky 2312 01:28:19,910 --> 01:28:17,920 of this just light exploding in front of 2313 01:28:23,110 --> 01:28:19,920 us and i was just like 2314 01:28:27,110 --> 01:28:24,870 you know are they listening or is this 2315 01:28:28,950 --> 01:28:27,120 just a coincidence 2316 01:28:31,590 --> 01:28:28,960 yeah somebody mentioned the power of 2317 01:28:34,310 --> 01:28:31,600 suggestion i i've often wondered if if 2318 01:28:35,990 --> 01:28:34,320 that because i've spent so much time 2319 01:28:37,590 --> 01:28:36,000 trying to concentrate on the nuts and 2320 01:28:39,270 --> 01:28:37,600 bolts and let's get 2321 01:28:42,229 --> 01:28:39,280 samples of the 2322 01:28:44,390 --> 01:28:42,239 crashed material or alien you know 2323 01:28:46,870 --> 01:28:44,400 something physical that we can say here 2324 01:28:49,110 --> 01:28:46,880 it is it's it's indisputable proof of 2325 01:28:50,149 --> 01:28:49,120 alien visitation and then 2326 01:28:52,390 --> 01:28:50,159 the more i 2327 01:28:54,310 --> 01:28:52,400 think about it lately it's it's 2328 01:28:56,229 --> 01:28:54,320 like there is no physical part to some 2329 01:28:59,270 --> 01:28:56,239 of it and maybe it is consciousness 2330 01:29:01,590 --> 01:28:59,280 based or somehow surrounding 2331 01:29:03,110 --> 01:29:01,600 human human consciousness is what's 2332 01:29:06,149 --> 01:29:03,120 causing the uh 2333 01:29:08,390 --> 01:29:06,159 phenomenon it's been here forever 2334 01:29:10,709 --> 01:29:08,400 well this is what i want to say to the 2335 01:29:13,110 --> 01:29:10,719 whole ufo community and this is exactly 2336 01:29:15,350 --> 01:29:13,120 what i said um at the beginning of my 2337 01:29:17,270 --> 01:29:15,360 entrance into this community 2338 01:29:21,590 --> 01:29:17,280 was that 2339 01:29:22,629 --> 01:29:21,600 i've had alien type experiences 2340 01:29:24,950 --> 01:29:22,639 all right 2341 01:29:26,870 --> 01:29:24,960 but they were never physical 2342 01:29:28,709 --> 01:29:26,880 they were out of body 2343 01:29:30,470 --> 01:29:28,719 and i would say that it was not 2344 01:29:32,790 --> 01:29:30,480 something from outer space or another 2345 01:29:34,709 --> 01:29:32,800 planet it's something 2346 01:29:36,550 --> 01:29:34,719 that is in the astral world it's 2347 01:29:39,270 --> 01:29:36,560 something that connects you know the 2348 01:29:41,750 --> 01:29:39,280 spiritual or dream world 2349 01:29:43,110 --> 01:29:41,760 and um a lot of people don't like that 2350 01:29:45,990 --> 01:29:43,120 answer and it gets into the whole 2351 01:29:47,990 --> 01:29:46,000 theology and and demons and angels and 2352 01:29:48,709 --> 01:29:48,000 things like that 2353 01:29:49,430 --> 01:29:48,719 but 2354 01:29:56,950 --> 01:29:49,440 i 2355 01:29:59,350 --> 01:29:56,960 wrong 2356 01:30:01,189 --> 01:29:59,360 but i have not come in contact 2357 01:30:03,830 --> 01:30:01,199 with a physical being 2358 01:30:06,709 --> 01:30:03,840 that i can say this is a physical 2359 01:30:07,750 --> 01:30:06,719 thing that i could touch in our world 2360 01:30:10,070 --> 01:30:07,760 yeah that's what i was saying like the 2361 01:30:12,629 --> 01:30:10,080 nuts and bolts it seems to be a lot more 2362 01:30:15,669 --> 01:30:12,639 of these experiencers and people feeling 2363 01:30:18,470 --> 01:30:15,679 that they're abducted but maybe all 2364 01:30:21,430 --> 01:30:18,480 in your mind in one form or another 2365 01:30:22,870 --> 01:30:21,440 either it by or project it into your 2366 01:30:25,510 --> 01:30:22,880 mind or 2367 01:30:27,189 --> 01:30:25,520 i call it ridged into your mind yeah in 2368 01:30:28,870 --> 01:30:27,199 the first book that i wrote with bob 2369 01:30:30,550 --> 01:30:28,880 mitchell it was all about astral 2370 01:30:32,470 --> 01:30:30,560 abductions 2371 01:30:33,350 --> 01:30:32,480 you know so it's like your body is in 2372 01:30:35,350 --> 01:30:33,360 bed 2373 01:30:37,590 --> 01:30:35,360 but your mind or your astral body is 2374 01:30:39,110 --> 01:30:37,600 taken on these experiences you know some 2375 01:30:41,350 --> 01:30:39,120 if you go back in history those are like 2376 01:30:43,590 --> 01:30:41,360 the initiations or being taken with the 2377 01:30:46,149 --> 01:30:43,600 angels and things like that 2378 01:30:48,229 --> 01:30:46,159 or today we call them alien abductions 2379 01:30:51,110 --> 01:30:48,239 but we think it's physical and i would 2380 01:30:53,750 --> 01:30:51,120 say that it's it's astral abductions 2381 01:30:55,350 --> 01:30:53,760 it's it's it's a manipulation of the 2382 01:30:57,030 --> 01:30:55,360 conscious mind 2383 01:30:59,110 --> 01:30:57,040 and that would explain why there's often 2384 01:31:02,629 --> 01:30:59,120 zero physical evidence of abductions 2385 01:31:04,790 --> 01:31:02,639 just the person's experience 2386 01:31:06,629 --> 01:31:04,800 yeah and then again it's like do you 2387 01:31:09,669 --> 01:31:06,639 take the word of the person or do you 2388 01:31:12,149 --> 01:31:09,679 take the word of what was given and i 2389 01:31:14,390 --> 01:31:12,159 would say it's very hard because 2390 01:31:18,310 --> 01:31:14,400 if you go back in history these things 2391 01:31:22,550 --> 01:31:19,990 a lot of them are tricksters a lot of 2392 01:31:25,669 --> 01:31:22,560 them manipulate you they say things for 2393 01:31:27,590 --> 01:31:25,679 specific reasons they're not usually for 2394 01:31:29,189 --> 01:31:27,600 your benefit 2395 01:31:31,030 --> 01:31:29,199 so 2396 01:31:33,270 --> 01:31:31,040 it's difficult to gauge 2397 01:31:35,590 --> 01:31:33,280 the trustworthiness 2398 01:31:37,750 --> 01:31:35,600 of the information that comes in these 2399 01:31:40,390 --> 01:31:37,760 states and you have to really have a 2400 01:31:44,629 --> 01:31:43,110 grounded perspective of all this 2401 01:31:46,790 --> 01:31:44,639 information before you just jump to 2402 01:31:47,510 --> 01:31:46,800 conclusions about what some being told 2403 01:31:49,270 --> 01:31:47,520 you 2404 01:31:51,030 --> 01:31:49,280 on the other side 2405 01:31:52,950 --> 01:31:51,040 yeah i think you're absolutely right and 2406 01:31:54,070 --> 01:31:52,960 uh coming from a christian perspective 2407 01:31:55,830 --> 01:31:54,080 i'm always 2408 01:31:57,270 --> 01:31:55,840 leery of people who are communicating 2409 01:31:59,350 --> 01:31:57,280 with whatever entity they're 2410 01:32:01,910 --> 01:31:59,360 communicating with that it isn't some 2411 01:32:05,110 --> 01:32:01,920 demonic trickster or 2412 01:32:07,910 --> 01:32:05,120 demon masquerading as something like it 2413 01:32:10,149 --> 01:32:07,920 you know a deceased relative or an alien 2414 01:32:11,990 --> 01:32:10,159 you know who knows 2415 01:32:13,750 --> 01:32:12,000 but uh i'm gonna throw you out of here 2416 01:32:15,669 --> 01:32:13,760 now 2417 01:32:17,750 --> 01:32:15,679 thank you i i appreciate you coming and 2418 01:32:20,070 --> 01:32:17,760 doing this again 2419 01:32:21,350 --> 01:32:20,080 i really did enjoy the book i i i will 2420 01:32:22,709 --> 01:32:21,360 say that again 2421 01:32:25,350 --> 01:32:22,719 and it's called 2422 01:32:27,830 --> 01:32:25,360 egyptian postures of power by jason quit 2423 01:32:29,270 --> 01:32:27,840 the link to the amazon to buy the book 2424 01:32:30,229 --> 01:32:29,280 is right in the description of this 2425 01:32:32,870 --> 01:32:30,239 video 2426 01:32:35,590 --> 01:32:32,880 help a uh unemployed 2427 01:32:37,430 --> 01:32:35,600 friend out right buy the ball right he 2428 01:32:40,629 --> 01:32:37,440 needs the money he's got a hot wife he's 2429 01:32:42,390 --> 01:32:40,639 gotta keep up with and you know 2430 01:32:43,350 --> 01:32:42,400 it is a good book though i do recommend 2431 01:32:46,709 --> 01:32:43,360 it 2432 01:32:49,350 --> 01:32:46,719 thank you yes gas is very expensive 2433 01:32:51,910 --> 01:32:49,360 yeah a hundred dollars to fill a tank 2434 01:32:53,590 --> 01:32:51,920 i i just i have a four-cylinder car and 2435 01:32:56,229 --> 01:32:53,600 it just cost me sixty dollars to fill 2436 01:32:58,390 --> 01:32:56,239 the tank it's a four-cylinder car like 2437 01:33:00,390 --> 01:32:58,400 it's a little putt-putt car it's a 2438 01:33:01,590 --> 01:33:00,400 glorified go-kart shouldn't cost that 2439 01:33:04,070 --> 01:33:01,600 much 2440 01:33:06,830 --> 01:33:04,080 yeah we're almost at we're almost at two 2441 01:33:10,229 --> 01:33:06,840 dollars a liter here which is 2442 01:33:12,229 --> 01:33:10,239 uh close to six dollars 2443 01:33:14,870 --> 01:33:12,239 oh wow yeah we're still at like four 2444 01:33:16,870 --> 01:33:14,880 bucks here but it's going up it's like 2445 01:33:20,070 --> 01:33:16,880 it'll be worse 2446 01:33:25,430 --> 01:33:22,790 well tell your wife i said hello and and 2447 01:33:26,950 --> 01:33:25,440 also uh make sure that you you say you 2448 01:33:28,149 --> 01:33:26,960 mentioned to jean-claude that you were 2449 01:33:31,590 --> 01:33:28,159 on my show 2450 01:33:32,550 --> 01:33:31,600 yesterday you know uh a real show and 2451 01:33:34,390 --> 01:33:32,560 and 2452 01:33:36,470 --> 01:33:34,400 you know 2453 01:33:38,470 --> 01:33:36,480 and that i'm tired of him taking all the 2454 01:33:40,229 --> 01:33:38,480 hot psychic chicks 2455 01:33:43,669 --> 01:33:40,239 he's got a monopoly on him that's why 2456 01:33:44,550 --> 01:33:43,679 he's got such a huge following 2457 01:33:46,470 --> 01:33:44,560 so 2458 01:33:49,189 --> 01:33:46,480 i'm going to lodge a complaint with the 2459 01:33:51,030 --> 01:33:49,199 canadian government against him 2460 01:33:53,750 --> 01:33:51,040 we're gonna do that 2461 01:33:55,910 --> 01:33:53,760 i'll i'll let him know 2462 01:33:58,550 --> 01:33:55,920 all right thanks jason i appreciate your 2463 01:34:00,709 --> 01:33:58,560 time and thank you for uh and also 2464 01:34:02,149 --> 01:34:00,719 sending me a book to read and and coming 2465 01:34:03,669 --> 01:34:02,159 here and helping us break it down 2466 01:34:07,030 --> 01:34:03,679 because it's pretty complicated i don't 2467 01:34:11,270 --> 01:34:08,870 you have a good night 2468 01:34:15,430 --> 01:34:11,280 all right there we go the legendary 2469 01:34:17,830 --> 01:34:15,440 jason quit of quit spirity fame 2470 01:34:20,310 --> 01:34:17,840 and noted author of several other books 2471 01:34:22,870 --> 01:34:20,320 besides this newest one egyptian 2472 01:34:23,750 --> 01:34:22,880 postures of power 2473 01:34:25,189 --> 01:34:23,760 um 2474 01:34:26,950 --> 01:34:25,199 yeah i'm going to try some of the 2475 01:34:30,070 --> 01:34:26,960 meditations in this so maybe we'll do a 2476 01:34:32,709 --> 01:34:30,080 follow-up and see you know 2477 01:34:34,550 --> 01:34:32,719 what what do i think about the 2478 01:34:36,870 --> 01:34:34,560 uh 2479 01:34:38,070 --> 01:34:36,880 about the effects because it's one thing 2480 01:34:39,990 --> 01:34:38,080 to read 2481 01:34:42,790 --> 01:34:40,000 here's how you do a meditation 2482 01:34:44,950 --> 01:34:42,800 but to actually do it and then you know 2483 01:34:47,109 --> 01:34:44,960 uh 2484 01:34:48,790 --> 01:34:47,119 be able to see if it has some positive 2485 01:34:51,750 --> 01:34:48,800 benefit in your life 2486 01:34:53,669 --> 01:34:51,760 i tend to go to the jeet kune do 2487 01:34:56,310 --> 01:34:53,679 kind of school of meditation if 2488 01:34:58,550 --> 01:34:56,320 something works for me i keep it if it 2489 01:35:00,790 --> 01:34:58,560 if i have trouble with it too many times 2490 01:35:03,430 --> 01:35:00,800 or i can't really derive any benefit 2491 01:35:05,910 --> 01:35:03,440 from it i throw it out and and i'm on to 2492 01:35:07,430 --> 01:35:05,920 looking for other tools 2493 01:35:09,109 --> 01:35:07,440 but i think there may be some things in 2494 01:35:11,270 --> 01:35:09,119 there that are beneficial and i'm going 2495 01:35:12,390 --> 01:35:11,280 to give them a try 2496 01:35:14,790 --> 01:35:12,400 uh 2497 01:35:17,350 --> 01:35:14,800 those of you who have asked yes tomorrow 2498 01:35:20,550 --> 01:35:17,360 night we will cover david wilcox latest 2499 01:35:22,629 --> 01:35:20,560 stream and i i have some fun stuff to go 2500 01:35:25,109 --> 01:35:22,639 with that you're going to enjoy 2501 01:35:27,030 --> 01:35:25,119 very much and i'm also calling stravati 2502 01:35:28,229 --> 01:35:27,040 aerospace tomorrow to try to get an 2503 01:35:29,990 --> 01:35:28,239 interview with the guy that david 2504 01:35:31,910 --> 01:35:30,000 wilcock gave all that money to that's 2505 01:35:33,590 --> 01:35:31,920 supposed to build hover cars with him 2506 01:35:35,750 --> 01:35:33,600 we'll see what happens 2507 01:35:38,470 --> 01:35:35,760 um 2508 01:35:40,950 --> 01:35:38,480 and uh later in the week we'll have a 2509 01:35:44,070 --> 01:35:40,960 couple more shows saturday this saturday 2510 01:35:45,270 --> 01:35:44,080 7 p.m eastern time we are going to have 2511 01:35:52,470 --> 01:35:45,280 wayne 2512 01:35:53,910 --> 01:35:52,480 owns a mountain that this angelique 2513 01:35:56,470 --> 01:35:53,920 character said 2514 01:35:58,310 --> 01:35:56,480 she met aliens inside a secret base 2515 01:36:00,310 --> 01:35:58,320 inside his mountain 2516 01:36:02,310 --> 01:36:00,320 we're going to have him come here and do 2517 01:36:04,470 --> 01:36:02,320 an interview and 2518 01:36:06,310 --> 01:36:04,480 what do you think is he going to confirm 2519 01:36:08,470 --> 01:36:06,320 her alien 2520 01:36:11,750 --> 01:36:08,480 encounters or is he going to shatter her 2521 01:36:15,430 --> 01:36:11,760 delusions of alien encounters 2522 01:36:17,109 --> 01:36:15,440 this saturday 7 p.m at midnight 2523 01:36:18,790 --> 01:36:17,119 so uh what else can i say i want to 2524 01:36:20,070 --> 01:36:18,800 thank jason quit my guest tonight i want 2525 01:36:22,830 --> 01:36:20,080 to thank each and every one of you for 2526 01:36:27,189 --> 01:36:25,669 us and i want to thank the incredible 2527 01:36:28,470 --> 01:36:27,199 audience for coming i would encourage 2528 01:36:30,229 --> 01:36:28,480 you really to 2529 01:36:32,310 --> 01:36:30,239 buy the book if you're into this kind of 2530 01:36:34,950 --> 01:36:32,320 stuff especially i think that you will 2531 01:36:37,030 --> 01:36:34,960 definitely enjoy it i love all kinds of 2532 01:36:38,709 --> 01:36:37,040 stuff like ancient egyptian history i 2533 01:36:40,870 --> 01:36:38,719 like meditation 2534 01:36:43,350 --> 01:36:40,880 i like religious history 2535 01:36:45,990 --> 01:36:43,360 uh so for me it was a no-brainer to like 2536 01:36:48,149 --> 01:36:46,000 this book and i think you will too 2537 01:36:49,990 --> 01:36:48,159 so what else can i say friends until 2538 01:36:54,970 --> 01:36:50,000 next time my name is stephen cambion 2539 01:37:42,800 --> 01:37:15,360 [Music] 2540 01:38:13,940 --> 01:37:42,810 so 2541 01:38:15,310 --> 01:38:13,950 [Music] 2542 01:38:21,750 --> 01:38:15,320 [Applause] 2543 01:38:21,760 --> 01:38:26,330 so